Political Hitman Roger Stone Cuts and Runs on L.A. Radio Talk Show

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Schadenfreude is a dish best served hot. So it was with great relish we learned that one of our least favorite people, Nixon protege/apologist and political hitman Roger Stone, folded like a cheap suit on L.A. talk radio last week at the first sign of resistance to Stone's current scam, a book on the JFK assassination.

See also:
- Roger Stone Promotes Book About Kennedy Assassination

Even more tasty was that Stone himself put us on to his wimp-out, tweeting to all the world that he'd "never been interviewed by a more ignorant, offensive jerk than Douglas McIntyre at KABC in LA. A real asshole." (He's never been interviewed by yours truly.)

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Hoping to capitalize on the 50th anniversary of the Bad Day in Dallas, Stone is making the rounds with a warmed-over treatment of the long-running fever dream that Lyndon Baines Johnson was the man who ordered the hit. It's a theory also favored by Illuminatiphobes, but Stone isn't certifiably nuts, except like a fox.

As fate (cruel fate) would have it, it was on the very morning of the anniversary, Friday, November 22, that Stone, a part time Miami Beach resident, was slated to yak it up in drivetime with talk show host McIntyre. Also a columnist with the L.A. Daily News, McIntyre does not suffer fools -- or foolishness -- gladly, and he and Stone clashed immediately, as soon as Stone began spouting pseudo-history. Here's how it went down, beginning at 2:44 of the 7 a.m. segment here:

McIntyre: Lay it on us. How did LBJ get JFK killed?

Stone: Well, first of all, the classic way: motive, means and opportunity. Lyndon Johnson blackmailed his way onto the 1960 ticket to begin with. JFK didn't want him.

McIntyre: That's not true. Roger, it's simply not true. Robert Kennedy didn't want LBJ on the ticket...

Stone: If I may, Lyndon Johnson and House Speaker Rayburn went to JFK with a dossier which they got from J. Edgar Hoover...

McIntyre: That's nonsense.

Stone: You clearly haven't read my book.

McIntyre: No I haven't. But I've studied LBJ my whole life...[unintelligible, arguing over each other]...Let's set some ground rules here.

Stone: Okay.

McIntyre: We can plug the book and people can read the book. I'm not gonna read the book. I'm gonna throw it out the second -- in fact, I'm gonna throw it out [sound of book landing in waste basket]...

Stone: Good.

McIntyre: It's thrown out now. But here's the deal.

Stone: This segment's over.

McIntyre: Okay.

Stone: This segment's over. Have a great day.

After a short exchange with his co-host, McIntyre said he has "a tolerance for conspiracy theories" but that guests "can't come on and make statements and claim them to be true when I know them not be true." He then offered an explanation of LBJ's presence on the 1960 ticket in terms of garden-variety political calculation: JFK needed to keep Texas in the Democratic column, thus LBJ.

Stone, a hardened cynic by trade (and cynicism not to be confused with realism), prefers a more byzantine and lurid version of the tale, of course, being well-schooled in political cynicism by the master himself. (It doesn't hurt that it sells more books.)

But Stone also sells himself as a political tough guy, a hard-nosed operative. Not tough enough to stand his ground when an interview turns combative, apparently.

We've tweeted Stone (actually, we twitter-taunted him) for some comment. No reply yet.

We emailed Doug McIntyre for his response to Stone's tweet calling him the "asshole of the day." McIntyre replied that "We re-Tweeted it with the following: "Badge of honor!"

Fire Ant -- an invasive species, tinged bright red, with an annoying, sometimes-fatal sting -- covers Palm Beach County. Got feedback or a tip? Contact Fire.Ant@BrowardPalmBeach.com.




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upsideout
upsideout

Most of the comments in this thread extolling the greatness of Stone and his book were written by Stone himself.  It's one of his internet tactics; bolstering bullshit.  Roger is fundamentally a coward. 

upsideout
upsideout

HAHAHHHAAAH.  Roger is an extreme narcissist and a psychopath and a drug addict.

harmon.peter
harmon.peter

I am, usually, not a fan of these sorts of books.  However, I just finished reading The Man Who Killed Kennedy and it is fact based.  You can argue whether or not one should arrive at the same conclusions that Roger Stone arrives; but, it IS fact based.  There is no bizarre conspiracy nonsense to be found in The Man Who Killed Kennedy.  Stone did some solid research for this book.  Aside from the historical aspect, its just a really exciting read.  I couldn't put it down.  I just bought a copy for my brother as a Christmas gift.   

jason.rainier
jason.rainier

Roger Stone has credibility. He managed to seize a presidential election from Al Gore's grasp in Florida.  He took down Elliot Spitzer.  He has been an instrumental part of several presidential campaigns.  I can't say I know who "fire ant" is. I think Stone is more credible. 

dodgephillip
dodgephillip

I do know Stone and rely on him for truth. Fireant who only bashes Stone to bring attention to himself and McIntyre are in the minority when it comes to their Stone hating. There are literally dozens of radio personalities that echo this and I offer a particularly good one as proof:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hizvVMc14I4

raylandgivens
raylandgivens

This person can't even put their own name on the articles they write. That being said, Fire Ant seems to have quite the hard on for Stone. Every other article is bashing him. This McIntyre seems to be of the same style. Both know nothing.

jonathanolberman
jonathanolberman

Fire Ant is wrong again. Have been following Stone's interviews during the past few weeks and every other host has actually behaved like an adult, event at times disagreeing with Roger's theories. Fire Ant is an example of someone who is fixated on trashing Roger than actually seeing this for what it is.

y1sonobovich
y1sonobovich

I listened to McIntyre’s short interview with Roger Stone.I have listened to other interviews Mr. Stone has done on his book and McIntyre’s interview was not an interview.It was a poorly prepared attack that reeked of McIntyre’s personal animosity.Why did he attack Stone’s book without having read it?Where is McIntyre’s documentation that informed him to the extent that he dismissed Stone within 19 seconds of the start his conversation with Stone? I heard no hint of an inclination on McIntyre’s part that he was interested in anything but an ad hominem attack on Stone.This interview was a sham.

 

wendygoddard
wendygoddard

Wow! While I've never heard of Roger Stone I have very much heard of Douglas McIntyre because I spend part of the time in LA and know the games McIntyre plays. He epitomizes the current trend in morning drive time shock jock/asshole personalities. He is interviewing the guy about his book and throws the book in the trash in the middle of the interview. No wonder Roger Stone hung up on him. McIntyre pulls these kinds of antics for the ratings and publicity like this article demonstrate that it's working. Get me a barf bag!

loriswitsker
loriswitsker

Stone's book is a best seller. He documents his case that LBJ blackmailed his way onto the 1960 JFK ticket. 

Stone's book is a masterpiece of fact, evidence and truth. The Fire Ant is a fool.

players02
players02

Hey Piss Ant -- come interview me in person in Palm Beach Dec 3, tough guy. Doubt you have the balls.

123morrow
123morrow

Who killed JFK? Here is a hint:

LYNDON JOHNSON HAD A MURDEROUS ATTITUDE TOWARDS ROBERT KENNEDY - "I'll cut his throat if it's the last thing I do."

Robert Caro describes the LBJ-RFK relationship post 1960 Democratic convention, where RFK had moved heaven and earth attempting to keep LBJ off the 1960 Democratic ticket. Caro:

John Connally, who during long days of conversation with this author was willing to answer almost any question put to him, no matter how delicate the topic, wouldn't answer when asked what Johnson said about Robert Kennedy. When the author pressed him, he finally said flatly: "I am not going to tell you what he said about him." During the months after the convention, when Johnson was closeted alone back in Texas with an old ally he would sometimes be asked about Robert Kennedy. He would reply with a gesture. Raising his big right hand, he would draw the side of it across the neck in a slowing, slitting movement. Sometimes that gesture would be his only reply; sometimes, as during a meeting with Ed Clark in Austin, he would say, as his hand moved across his neck, "I'll cut his throat if it's the last thing I do."[Robert Caro, "The Passage of Power," p. 140]

players02
players02

The Fire Ant-- A man without the balls to publish his real name, get's it wrong again.

 KABC's DOUG McINTYRE ; IGNORANT, UNINFORMED OR JUST STUPID?

In 40 years in American politics I have been interviewed hundreds of times. I have yet to be interviewed by anyone less informed , more ignorant and less talented than Doug McIntyre of KABC radio in Los Angeles. I was on his AM radio show by phone to discuss my book  "The Man Who Killed Kennedy- the Case Against LBJ". ( AMAZON LINK) One minute into the interview I asserted that JFK didn't want LBJ on the the 1960 ticket only to have this ignorant lout say "wrong, only Bobby Kennedy didn't want LBJ on the ticket." McIntyre admitted he hadn't read my book or it's documentation and that rather than read my book he'd throw it in the trash. Needing neither McIntyre's stupidity or his lousy AM radio show I did something I haven't done in 40 years. I hung up. In order to demonstrate the depth of Doug McIntyre's ignorance I will quote from my book including the footnotes. KABC should can this guy. He knows nothing.

From the Amazon Bestseller "The Man Who Killed Kennedy- the Case Against LBJ"-

There is a darker explanation for how Lyndon Johnson really got on the 1960 Democratic ticket: blackmail and intimidation tactics. Anthony Summers interviewed JFK’s longtime secretary Evelyn Lincoln:

“During the 1960 campaign, according to Mrs. Lincoln, Kennedy discovered how vulnerable his womanizing had made him. Sexual blackmail, she said, had long been part of Lyndon Johnson's modus operandi abetted by Edgar. “J. Edgar Hoover gave Johnson the information about various congressmen and senators so that Johnson could go to X senator and say, ‘How about this little deal you have with this woman?’ and so forth. That's how he kept them in line. He used his IOUs with them as what he hoped was his road to the presidency. He had this trivia to use because he had Hoover in his corner. And he thought that the members of Congress would go out there and put him over at the Convention. But then Kennedy beat him at the Convention. And well, after that Hoover and Johnson and their group were able to push Johnson on Kennedy. “LBJ,” said Lincoln, “had been using all the information that Hoover could find on Kennedy during the campaign and even before the Convention. And Hoover was in on the pressure on Kennedy at the Convention.”17

Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri was the man whom John Kennedy was courting heavily to be his vice president. Reporter Nancy Dickerson, who was very close to LBJ, interviewed Symington campaign advisor Clark Clifford about JFK’s courtship of Symington and the meetings involved. Dickerson:

“The first was a luncheon at Kennedy's Washington house, where, through Clifford, he offered the vice presidency to Symington, provided Symington's Missouri delegation votes went to Kennedy. Symington turned down the deal. The second conversation, which took place in Los Angeles, was a repeat of the first, and again it was refused. The third conversation was in Kennedy's hideaway in Los Angeles, during which he told Clifford that he was fairly certain of a first-ballot victory and asked if Symington would be his running mate. As Clifford later told me, ‘There were no strings attached. It was a straight offer.′ The Symington and Clifford families conferred, Symington agreed to run, and Clifford relayed the news to Kennedy.

“Clifford was playing a unique role: He was not only Symington’s campaign advisor, but JFK’s personal lawyer as well. He is one of the world’s most sophisticated men, and he does not make mistakes about matters like this. As he told me, ‘We had a deal signed, sealed, and delivered.’”

Seymour Hersh discovered the same thing when he interviewed Clark Clifford and JFK insider Hy Raskin for his book The Dark Side of Camelot.

“Johnson was not being given the slightest bit of consideration by any of the Kennedys,” Hy Raskin told Hersh. “On the stuff I saw, it was always Symington who was going to be the vice president. The Kennedy family had approved Symington . . .”

“It was obvious to them that something extraordinary had taken place, as it was to me,” Raskin wrote. “During my entire association with the Kennedys, I could not recall any situation where a decision of major significance had been reversed in such a short period of time. . . . Bob [Kennedy] had always been involved in every major decision; why not this one, I pondered . . . I slept little that night.”18

John Kennedy told Clark Clifford on July 13, 1960: “We’ve talked it out—me, dad, Bobby—and we’ve selected Symington as the vice president.” Kennedy asked Clark Clifford to relay that message to Symington “and find out if he’d run. . . . I [Clark Clifford] and Stuart went to bed believing that we had a solid, unequivocal deal with Jack.”19

John Kennedy, after what must have been a brutal night of dealing with Lyndon Johnson and Sam Rayburn, told Clifford on the morning of July 14, 1960: “’I must do something that I have never done before. I made a serious deal, and now I have to go back on it. I have no alternative.’ Symington was out and Johnson was in. Clifford recalled observing that Kennedy looked as if he’d been up all night.”20

In sum, on July 13, 1960, John Kennedy had a deal “signed, sealed, and delivered” for Senator Stuart Symington to be his VP. Then—poof!—in a cloud of magician’s smoke, suddenly Lyndon Johnson miraculously and inexplicably appears as the VP selection for JFK by the morning of July 14, 1960, stunning media and inside political observers.

Following Johnson’s acceptance of the vice presidential spot on the ticket, Bobby remarked to Charles Bartlett, a journalist and family friend: “Yesterday was the best day of my life, and today is the worst day of my life.”22

17. Summers, Anthony, Official and Confidential: The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover, p. 272.
18. Hersh, Seymour, The Dark Side of Camelot, pp. 124-25.
19. Hersh, Seymour, The Dark Side of Camelot, pp. 124-25.
20. Hersh, Seymour, The Dark Side of Camelot, p. 126.
21. Stans, Maurice, The Terrors of Justice, p. 134.
22. Shesol, Mutual Contempt, pg. 57.

mc1randy
mc1randy

@wendygoddard

Just when I thought the era of the shock jock was over, Douglas McIntyre brought it back with bells and whistles.How disappointing.But thanks to this article I will definitely buy Stone’s book.

fire.ant
fire.ant topcommenter

@wendygoddard  

Just a shock jock? You're a tool, Goddard.

"Known for his active involvement in local politics and his passion for jazz and The Great American Songbook, McIntyre's background includes work as television writer-producer with credits including Married... with Children, WKRP in Cincinnati, Full House, Mike Hammer and the critically acclaimed PBS series, Liberty's Kids, which earned McIntyre a Humanitas Prize nomination. With his wife, actress Penny Peyser, McIntyre wrote, produced and directed the feature length documentary film, Trying to Get Good: The Jazz Odyssey of Jack Sheldon, released in 2008."

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2012/10/measures_mm_and_hh_campaign_do.php

And he threw Rog's book in the garbage? Oh, the humanity!
It's not like he organized a mob of thugs to threaten election officials.

fire.ant
fire.ant topcommenter

Thanks. I have better things to do. And Palm Beach is so repellent. You'll be right at home.


fire.ant
fire.ant topcommenter

@123morrow  

Clearly, Sirhan Sirhan was just a patsy. 

Can't wait for Rog's next expose: "The Man Who Killed (Robert) Kennedy..."

fire.ant
fire.ant topcommenter

@players02 
Spellcheck broken, Rog? No apostrophe in "get's."



Robnadeau
Robnadeau

The Piss Ant is correct... He is a fool.... A parasitic, sociopathic, cowardly fool. He claims that if he interviewed Stone he would be more obnoxious and ignorant than McIntyre, but then, when presented the opportunity to do so, declines because he has "better things to do." Sackless wonder.

123morrow
123morrow

@fire.ant

@123morrow

LBJ was very close to Hoover of the FBI - neighbors for 19 years. Hoover's special friend was Clyde Tolson, #2 at FBI:



According to RFK aide Frank Mankiewicz: Robert Kennedy just days before the California primary was asked if he would reopen the investigation into JFK’s death and RFK gave a simple one word answer: “Yes.” Mankiewicz says, “I remember that I was stunned by the answer. It was either like he was suddenly blurting out the truth, or it was a way to shut down the questioning – you know, ‘Yes, now let’s move on.’”



William Sullivan, the #4 man at the FBI, describes a high level FBI meeting in spring, 1968. "Hoover was not present, and Clyde Tolson [FBI #2 and Hoover's boyfriend] was presiding in his absence. I was one of eight men who heard Tolson respond to the mention of [RFK's] name by saying, 'I hope someone shoots and kills the son of a bitch.' This was five or six weeks before the California primary."




Robnadeau
Robnadeau

Hey Piss Ant, you are missing an accent mark

fire.ant
fire.ant topcommenter

@Robnadeau I can be plenty obnoxious enough right here. In my underwear. Scratching my wonder sack.

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