To Everyone Upset About That PalmCon Article...

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Courtesy PalmCon
More than 2300 people attended the event.
On Monday, New Times writer Allie Conti posted a blog item about PalmCon, a comic book convention in Palm Beach County. This post upset a lot of people from the comics/cosplay community.

Let us provide a little background and a sincere mea culpa from the editors.

Our blogs are a collection of viewpoints from our various writers. Most of the items are newsy, but we do run many different types -- opinions, rants, lists, etc. Ms. Conti attended the con and kicked in this blog post.

The next day, we got a flurry of letters and comments, and Ms. Conti began to be attacked personally on her Facebook. The comments ranged from thoughtful to hilarious, to nasty to absurd.

Some people alleged there were minors in at least one image. We have taken that all of the pictures down.

See Also:
-- Aqua Teen Hunger Force Creator Dave Willis Heads to Supercon
-- Confessions of a Florida Supercon Volunteer
-- Florida Supercon 2013 (slideshow)
-- way more Supercon coverage

We sincerely apologize to anyone and everyone who was upset. It was not our intention to mock or insult.

It bums us out to be in this tiff with you, because New Times has, for years and years, supported local comic and anime conventions. We've done numerous stories, the overwhelming number laudatory.

So please accept our apology.





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Danny Hernandez
Danny Hernandez

Conti has made it clear to me that the New Times is not a reputable source for any news whatsoever.

EASYUSERNAME
EASYUSERNAME

"It bums us out to be in this tiff with you"
DEFINITION OF THE WORD TIFF: A petty quarrel

I'd expect the Managing Editor to understand that words actually have meanings. Something you should have known before you published that piece of trash blog. Something you really should have known before your first lame attempt at an apology & even more before this lame second attempt. There's nothing petty about quarrel these people have. You made a huge mistake and now your continuing to pay for it as these people continue contacting the companies you advertise with, in addition to your parent company (who can be reached at this email: community@voiceplaces.com).

REMEMBER ANGRY READERS: Bad press is better than no press, unless you are the press, in which case it's just bad.

phil.mccallii
phil.mccallii

As an author, reviewer and colorist conventions are my opportunity to "meet and greet" with fans both new and old. It is also a chance to hang out with others who share my passions for all things imaginative. So how a show like PALMCON got ridiculed in this way is beyond belief. As a reviewer and writer, I am all for freedom of speech. However when that speech is used to slander or harm others this is something I just cannot condone.

I was an "Attending Artist" at PALMCON 2013 and here is my take on this "controversial" event.

1. All the tables next to me or any that I saw did not have "dusty" or "tired" items, perhaps the reviewer has never seen "Collectables".

2. Some of the cosplayers may have not been dressed in over the top costumes, but they were dressed up and from what I could tell having a blast.

3. More than one attendee came over to the table that I was at and told me how much fun they were having at the convention. For many of them it was also their first convention.

4. Were their opportunities for PALMCON staff to do better? Sure, but keep in mind this show is just beginning and it had also changed venues. I have been doing shows since 2006 and I have seen many succeed while many drifted away. I judge the success of a show by my own profits and most importantly on how much fun the ATTENDEES are having.

Conventions are a place for creative and imaginative people to come together and share the things they love the most. It is a place where being "weird" is just the norm and quite okay! Outsiders who come to our community must show respect, because we certainly show it to each other at these events. It is okay to have an opinion but not at the expense of others who thought they were attending an event where it’s okay to dress up and have some imaginative fun. Shame on the reviewer who bad mouthed PalmCon and its growing family, perhaps you should just stay home next time.

I am proud to say, that I was at PalmCon 2013!

If PalmCon 2014 is a go…you will most definitely see me in attendance!

Sincerely,

Philip Lee McCall II

"Imaginist" - Fantasy Author

Buy my books @ Amazon or Barnes & Noble

My websites: www.plmii.com

ii2bcnii
ii2bcnii

This isn't over until Allie Conti apologizes or is fired.  

Ariel Love
Ariel Love

It's not the newspaper I'm upset over. It's her. She deliberately attacked people. They were being friendly and posed for pictures and were being ridiculed IN PUBLIC, on the INTERNET, and in a NEWSPAPER. She should be fired on the basis of being a cruel and disgusting excuse for a writer. My college essays are written better. She attacked a group that is ALWAYS attacked. Have you ever noticed it's the nerdy kid who gets the swirly? In every movie I see, the nerdy kid who loves his/her comic books/anime/manga is the one who gets victimized and bullied like it's socially acceptable! These kinds of people have been mercilessly bullied, shunned, and put down for decades, and no one has ever allowed them to be themselves. Cons are a temporary freedom from the outside world. It provides a safe haven for people who are otherwise ridiculed into submission in the outside world. It's not fair that they're now being attacked in their own SAFE HAVEN. The place where everyone accepts them and supports them. THAT WAS WRONG and I won't stand for it. She's a slimy writer and needs to be put in her place. It has nothing to do with her appearance (although she's not the prettiest I do admit. In fact she looks like Big Bird's sister, except green with jealousy) , but everything to do with the articles she wrote. Her apology was fake, mediocre, and pathetic. I used to love this paper; especially Dan Savage's section (YOU GO DAN !!!), but I will not support a paper that allows this kind of trash to be printed. If her words are any indication, she's just as trashy and pathetic. Do yourselves a favor and dispense of her.

Lola
Lola

This apology is not sincere. Nonetheless, this “publication” has no journalistic value. It’s funny how a writer can bash individuals for no apparent reason by using incorrect prepositions as well as writing in fragmented sentences to get the message across. As for her facebook account, she left it public. Mrs. Conti also used her meme as her profile picture on facebook. She’s enjoying the spotlight.

 

genjiworks
genjiworks

You need to have better writers then. A writer who writes for a publication even one who blogs, rants, etc. would not personally attack individuals who aren't even in the spotlight. So, she had a bad experience, so what? It does not give her the write to target individuals and insult them in any publication.

To make it worse she is now whining about getting cyberbullied, posting up facebook images, etc. Are you guys professional? You maybe a free publication, but don't dig yourself into childish battle, because one of your writers does not know the meaning of 'humility' or 'empathy'. I mean how would it feel if one person among the haters got inside scoop on her? Like how she messed with drugs and have pictures of her sexting and made it public? You would consider that petty. Well right now that is her attitude with the whole thing.

She should just stop posting about the incident and stop using your blogs, publication and her own 'public' Facebook.


Vanessa Ocker
Vanessa Ocker

I was honestly not going to comment on this. Yes, it was a poorly written article but Conti has written good articles in the past, so I can only assume this was an awkward attempt at doing the whole 'ironically-making-fun-of-nerds-but-wait-I'm-a-nerd-too-lol' shtick many people have been doing lately. But there was a comment in her reply article that really put me off. "I am being forced to leave my post. LOL. Kidding! That would be absurd, nerds." What kind of comment is that. I realize it wasn't an apology article (which by the way, seems a bit less genuine since she didn't write it), but the way that comment stands out is terrible. It shows she sees nothing wrong with her commentary. It shows that she thinks she's above wrongdoing (which by the complete lack of repercussions seems to be true). Yes, she did get cyberbullied which is a terrible thing and I'm very upset people of the 'nerd' community would do that. But pot, meet kettle. There is a line you must clearly make when making a satirical article, and she crossed that when taking those photos and making the commentary she did on those people in the photos. BPB, thank you for taking down the photos, but I have to say, I do not appreciate the ease in which Ms. Conti seems to have gotten away with this. You are showing your readers that your writers can write and behave in an unprofessional manner and get away with it, something very detrimental to the image of this company.

crazysk8_er
crazysk8_er

She clearly stated in the article that this was her first convention, so I don't see why she should have judged it so harshly. Many conventions are small. She also commented on peoples cosplays, complaining of how bad they were, yet she contradicted herself later on saying she had no idea about the characters and only watched one of the shows for a week when she was a child. If you guys are going to have someone write an article on a topic then have it be someone with some sense of decency and is actually knowledgeable or a fan of what they are writing about. Don't just send someone because they are available.

AlfredSmith
AlfredSmith

Broward Palm Beach post - do not apologize. Bad publicity good publicity - it doesn't matter people. Your wrote and article - it had some sarcasm. Guess what - people get offended by everything these days. 

Everyone else reading this -  This page just got a large number of hits and ad impressions thanks partially to you. You're doing the Post a favor coming back and spreading the link. C'mon people - wake up. Don't like it - leave now - don't return until November when you forgot about it. Keep harping on and on about the negative that's all people will remember. Post something good like, "Hey, sorry it wasn't a good con for you but here's a photo of my and girlfriend/friend/groupoffriends having a blast. Hope it's better next year." 

I went to school for Journalism and one thing I learned is "You don't like the paper - then go write your own."

Tom Wendling
Tom Wendling

There's a difference between being derogatory and poking fun at someone - which she was doing. Some people can't tell the difference between the two.

Claude White
Claude White

Her complaints about the show itself lacking might have been spot on. The derogatory comments and slander she threw onto those who attended was not spot on and covered about 80% of the "article." She used it as a hate machine instead of actual journalism.

Richard Simon
Richard Simon

It wasn't funny it was mean spirited and derogatory, the blogger should be fired or better yet don't attend any event you do not fully comprehend. In fact New Times as whole is a complete lost cause nothing redeeming about it's leadership or personnel hired to write for it. tell your friends and family not support bullying by boycotting this atrocity of a magazine. You are in the public eye and it deems you unfit.

Ulic Droma
Ulic Droma

Check her FB profile pic… she’s actually enjoying this..

Tom Wendling
Tom Wendling

The paper has nothing to apologize about. The article wasn't that bad. In fact, it was pretty spot on.

FWACATA
FWACATA

Somebody cue "We are the CHampions", quick!

luismelhernandez
luismelhernandez

I feel bad for the promoter of Palmcon and I'll be attending their event next year. 2,300 attendees is nothing to dismiss.

As far as Allie Conti, it's a damn shame that she's still employed at your paper. The New Times shouldn't be allowed back into any convention.

Eric Anthony Pagoada
Eric Anthony Pagoada

No one cares about what you have to say. You all got barred from attending certain cons and everyone will remember that prissy bitch of a writer. And when they think of her and get angry, they'll think of the rest of your paper and get angry. You guys should've retracted it, had her write an apology, fire her, or any combination of the 3. She basically attacked and made fun of people, so I don't understand why you guys are trying to protect her when people did it right back to her.

Wltr Jvn
Wltr Jvn

who reads this bullshit paper anymore

Shawn Weaver
Shawn Weaver

This rag is boring and very very predictable

Yolie Rodriguez
Yolie Rodriguez

In the end, everyone will remember her and in a way she's already damaged her career, ah to be young and naive. Live and learn, Ms. Conti, you never bite the hand that feeds you.

Russell Burlingame
Russell Burlingame

I love that their response here is, "Oh, you're unhappy that we tried to make you all shut up and go away with a shamelessly unapologetic apology? Perhaps you will change your mind if you go and generate more traffic so that we can make more money off of you."

Ken Lam
Ken Lam

That "apology" was extremely weak. The article should be taken down & writer reprimanded.

Tee Dub
Tee Dub

"I am being forced to leave my post. LOL. Kidding! That would be absurd, nerds.

Rahzy
Rahzy

NewTimes, did you READ her article? It was ENTIRELY mocking and insulting. Not just to the convention, but to the attendees. To the people who were likely ecstatic to have their picture taken, and have it turned around and shame them for their hobbies and interests.

I'm not going to tell you to fire her, I'm sure she has done good enough work to get her hired on in the first place. However, the articles should be taken down, and an apology would be nice.

Tee Dub
Tee Dub

The apology had a "dictated, not read" feel... It wasnt an apology.

Isabel Heyninck
Isabel Heyninck

She took pictures of cosplayers who kindly posed for her to publicly ridicule them. One picture featured minors. She thought the community was angry because she said she didn't like the convention, but we were really angry because she viciously attacked our fellow fans. Then she wrote a follow up article with a title that included "Why Would Nerds Cyberbully Old Me" when she was the bully and all we did was fight back like any bullied person. I don't think this is a proper apology since it doesn't come from the writer of these pieces but at least New Times apologized. Especially since almost all those pictured were deeply hurt by her comments.

spkomix
spkomix

I can appreciate that there is a difference between an "article" and a "blog" -  if this was presented as just Alley's blog, rather than an article, or serious review in a reputable news source, it could have been dismissed more easily.   It certainly reads like a mean-spirited opinion piece rather than a news article.   Many of the responses were also mean and hateful, but that's what you can expect when you write nasty insults at people rather than a thoughtful review of the event. 

Casey Cook
Casey Cook

Thanks, but generally when I get sick from eating at a restaurant I don't keep going back and trying the other dishes in the hopes of finding a good one. Fortunately the newspaper business is going so well you don't mind alienating readers.

Tee Dub
Tee Dub

When your reporter alienates thousands of readers and says they can never get fired..... Thats not an asset, thats a liability.

the_orange_tree
the_orange_tree

Please remove Ms. Conti's article regarding the review of the con. Her review is tactless, and represents your company in a rather disturbing light. Should you support the comic book/Cosplayer community as you say you do then this article needs to be disposed of immediately. Ms. Continue also should write a sincere apology to those she has offended. This should make up for the betrayal to the community. Please ensure her future articles have a moderator/editor before she posts.

discarted
discarted

"Some people alleged there were minors in at least one image. We have taken that all of the pictures down."

So as a news agency you're now going to promulgate the misconception that photographing minors in pubic space is some sort of crime or illegal?

Nobody has an expectation of privacy in public settings, including minors.  Which means they can be photographed and their image published.

You'd think a news agency like the New Times would know this and defend that right.

This publication's credibility is gone.

Jt Ledo
Jt Ledo

Posts this, doesn't get fired. WAT.

Jt Ledo
Jt Ledo

"I am being forced to leave my post. LOL. Kidding! That would be absurd, nerds."

Paul Findley
Paul Findley

Perhaps this will be a much needed wake up call.

Casey Cook
Casey Cook

Classic non-apology apology. What are you sorry about, because it didn't say it the article. Are you sorry for the poor judgment in publishing Conti's mean spirited blog and equally insulting follow up, or are you sorry that people got upset? Seems like that second thing to me. A "great asset to your group of reporters"? I must have missed her reporting, all I saw was snark. You guys had two chances to make amends, and you blew it both times.

Tee Dub
Tee Dub

New Times: They hate us, and they don't care that we know it.

percival.constantine
percival.constantine

@AlfredSmith I feel sorry for the type of lessons you'll teach your children. "If you insult someone for no good reason, don't ever apologize. People will get offended by anything."

grackene
grackene

Since when is cyber bullying "spot on"?

ztakxilef
ztakxilef

@New Times Broward Palm Beach 

Wow thanks for the shameless advertising New Times.

*rolls eyes*

altworld2
altworld2

@New Times Broward Palm Beach Then here is my Editor question, if she can write like that why the F did you release the last two articles without sending them back for rewrites? She can obviously do better...

ally0730
ally0730

That's fine but in this particular article it's crude

AlfredSmith
AlfredSmith

@percival.constantine @AlfredSmith Well, you never know what someone will get offended by. And if you're going to live by that rule then being a writer for a newspaper/blog is not a good career. But in the world of the Bill O'Reilly's and the Bill Mahers - that unfortunately sells. I'm not talking ethics here. This was practically an op/ed - and people are entitled to write what they like. It's our choice whether to read it, let it infuriate us, respond and continue to fan the flames. Or....we can just put it out. Walk away. My lesson to my children will be something more like - "Be successful. When you do - do it positively." If they choose to be a divorce lawyer, a liberal/conservative tv host or even a comedian - well, then that's they're choice. And as far as apologizing, the paper did it already. She did it already. Now many here want to censor the past? NO MATTER WHAT - CENSORSHIP IS NEVER WORTH IT. In fact having the article and the responses is super bonus for the paper - that's 3 page views rather than 1. More Ad Impressions! Please don't take any offense - you're upset. I get it. But seriously - censorship of an op/ed for a local paper? We got bigger fish to fry.

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