PalmCon Response: Why Would Nerds Cyberbully Little Old Me?

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I'm writing this blog post in response to the overwhelming outcry in comments, podcasts, and cyberweirdness that I received regarding yesterday's "PalmCon Probably the Most Depressing Comic Book Convention in History."

People like Jacob A. Hautner had this to say in an email: "the author and probably the editors should resign because clearly they have no idea what they are doing."

Well, Jacob, you've won. Indeed, I made a mistake in airing my observations about the low turnout and general lack of fun at this year's PalmCon. It gives me great pain to report this, but due to pressure from angered readers like you, I am being forced to leave my post.

See also: PalmCon Probably the Most Depressing Comic Book Convention in History

LOL. Kidding! That would be absurd, nerds.

Would you not agree that writing that I liked the event would be more offensive than writing that I found it lackluster? Watchmen is literature, as is The Killing Joke. My comment in the original post -- that I found comics "ew" -- was meant as sarcasm. I own enough action figures as a 24-year-old woman to embarrass the hell out of my mother. Most important, I live to see people fly their freak flags as high as they possibly can.

However, there simply wasn't enough merchandise and entertainment available at PalmCon to justify the ticket cost, even if it was less than ten bucks. No one asked me to attend the event -- I went there because I wanted to check it out. As soon as I stepped into the convention center, I resented the fact that I had forked over my cash (on top of gas money and parking) for admission to a garage sale. Palm Beach County's comics enthusiasts deserve better.

See also: PalmCon at Palm Beach Convention Center (Photos)

Anyway, the comments rolled in last night and this morning. They attacked my appearance, my name, and my credentials as a writer. Also, this: "I promise you, her picture will be circulated around Florida comicons from now on." What sorcery is this?

Anyway: Here some of my favorite responses to the original blog post:

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Finally, the award for Only Sane Person goes to:

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Egads, Batman!

See also: Slideshow - PalmCon at Palm Beach Convention Center



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Palm Beach County Convention Center

650 Okeechobee Blvd., West Palm Beach, FL

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PixiePie
PixiePie

What is wrong with this woman? And now she has further displayed her foolishness. It would have been better if she hadn't said anything at all.

artfrankmiami
artfrankmiami

OK, now I didn't attend the con, but this article I found really brings to a head as to why there is such a furor over your review. I even posted that I didn't find your original review that bad, but now, that has all changed. You obviously didn't pay attention or were so disinterested in attending the con that you didn't "see" what was in front of you! Everything you said wasn't there WAS there!

Seriously, you'd be great on OMG Insider, Snarky.

http://www.floridageekscene.com/convention-report/palmcon-2013/?t=PalmCon+2013

artfrankmiami
artfrankmiami

The problem wasn't the bad review of the con in of itself, it's how you reviewed it. You wrote more about what you expected to see than what you felt was truly wrong. This article has items you should have said originally, then it might have been a more accurate critique. Saying that "I live to see people fly their freak flags as high as they possibly can" and that you have an embarrassingly large number of action figures for a woman your age in your original article would have added a more accurate point of view of who you are and probably deflect most of the criticism you received.


I don't like or agree with the personal attacks by readers on you, but you opened yourself up to it by doing the same first. Even in this article you write, "LOL. Kidding! That would be absurd, nerds." about you resigning. Once again you do the same mean spirited thing by dropping "nerds" at the end of the line. You don't say "Kidding!" or "Sarcasm!" once again, you just attack every negative criticism received without ever really analyzing what you could have done better by using this one word. I felt true bullying from you in the original article, not "sarcasm" as you say here and that quote from you proves the point. You should have added everything you wrote here to that original article--which I didn't find as bad as I had read elsewhere, but you do deserve the criticism for sloppy writing.


As to the cost to attend, if I wanted to see dozens of comic and memorabilia vendors and artists in one room, $9 doesn't seem that bad to me. That's the cost of a two hour movie! As that you weren't that excited about it to begin with, that's why you don't see the value.

We used to pay around $2-3 dollars for 1/4 the size in the 70's and that's like around $9 today.

Also, I probably spent more time thinking about this comment than you gave both of these articles. Just be more thoughtful about what you're writing about and do better next time.

SeriousC
SeriousC

Wars, economic failures, mass shootings, but this is where the comic fans draw a line huh?

bigmakproductions
bigmakproductions

I really enjoy your half-hearted attempt to justify your clear attack on the venue, people and overall experience. Your editors posted a real appology. You did not. You continue to ride on your high horse and feel your article is justified because you own some action figures? Really? The selection of words you chose to specifically attack the attendees was deliberate. You stated"no one asked me to attend the event" yet you elected to post a article which was clearly an editorial. You complain about the gas and parking, but I am sure that you will be compinsated by New Times for posting your article, so that complaint about cost has no standing. YOUR supervisors even had to intervene and post a proper apology indicating that there intention was not to mock or insult individuals. THEY EVEN IDENTIFIED your attack on the attendees at the event. They understood that you were in the wrong!

Your article here is not an apology. You, on behalf of New Times, have burned bridges. Until a real understanding of what you did and a clear apology for your article occurs FROM YOU, I will not support New Times. I will encourage others to remove your paper, stop supporting your advertisers and treat your paper for what it's worth, bird cage lining.

blart
blart

it's comforting to know that no one who was outraged at your article will ever find love or have children 

JJContramus
JJContramus

Don't you see that what you did wrong was not giving a bad review undeservedly, but rather talk down about the entire culture of people who were there in the most ignorant fashion possible?  You gave no insight to what the event was like, you just posted a few pictures of people with insulting captions, and then said it sucked.  That review would have been fine if you wrote it on Live Journal, but you're part of a national chain of publications.  You can't go out condescendingly insulting an entire group of people in a miniature review and not expect repercussions.

mushi_ca
mushi_ca

I believe the correct title should be .. "Allie Conti reaps what she has sewn"

ztakxilef
ztakxilef

Hey... I think there's more ads on this page then there was before.

genjiworks
genjiworks

Do you get paid to post articles inhere, because lately you've been putting out drivel. I myself don't see the fascination with cosplayers or anime conventions, but if I worked at your publication, I would never ever write an article like yours. The ill contempt you had for the individuals in your article was pretty malicious. Plus this new article where you continue to insult them by calling them 'nerds' and feeling cyberbullied, by their reaction?

If you don't know how it feels... how about inviting me to your family's reunion and ,as a guest, I start calling your tribe inbred, or maybe calling your mom's outfit whorish, or calling your grandparents child molesters. Your family would not like it at all and I would probably have gotten my ass kicked for it. Well, that's what you basically did... Your boss intervened on your behalf and apologized, but instead of feeling a sense of humility, you just acted like a douchebag again. There is a word that best describes you that starts with a 'C' and ends with a 'T' . It's CONCEIT and if you were thinking of the other vulgar word, then that's probably how you feel about yourself and you should change that attitude.

crazysk8_er
crazysk8_er

After your article before, and this one now, please do not insult the name Batman by even letting it into your vocabulary. You disgust me, and other nerds alike. We are proud of what we are fans of, do not insult us or try to bring us down for some kind of self-pleasing gain you have. If you say you are a fan of action figures and comics then the experience alone of going to a con should have been pleasing enough. There are other things to see at con's. Talking to the people, finding new shows or comics you may want to read, even discussing the cosplay that you say looks like it came from hot topic probably spent someone weeks to make. Don't insult what you truly do not understand.

AlfredSmith
AlfredSmith

This probably is the page with the most HITS for the broward palm beach post driving the ad revenue on this page to the top of the list. Sh**, girl, it wouldn't surprise me if they reward you for getting the site so large a number of hits. (Take the advice, girl.) True that it may not have been the best con but it depends on the city, the people, how long it's been around, etc... My only suggestion would have been that I would have done a bit of self mockery with some of the ridicule. It works for a lot of comedians and politicians. Kudos to you covering the convention anyways - lots of paper wouldn't have even cared. You've done the con and your job a favor. Well done.

vg1985
vg1985

Considering that bad press can effectively kill this con, it's terribly irresponsible for you to not apologize and to basically take the whole debacle as a joke. It's pretty serious to those vendors you insulted who make a living off of it. Not everyone gets to write poorly written articles devoid of humor for cash.

sunnypotato
sunnypotato

You have completely missed the point of why people are angry with you. You attacked the people attending the con rather than expressing your disappointment with the venue, food and lack of activity. You claim you "live to see people fly their freak flags." Is this so you can write an offensive article about them? You mention "old Duck Tales Comics" and then condemn a man for dressing up and being really excited about old Power Rangers shows? That article wasn't about PalmCon. That article was about the people who attended who you saw as pathetic. Did you ever think, perhaps, the people who attended and were happy ended up meeting people with similar interests and like minds? People they could be friends with? Instead of being bitter and angry, maybe you could have done the same.


As for the comments you've highlighted, those are probably the worst ones. However, you are missing a majority of the comments. You attacked attendees. You attacked the vendors. Those people who wrote the comments you showcased shouldn't have attacked your appearance or your name, but what do you expect? You just did the same thing to people who were most likely kind to you and happy that you wanted to take their photos. It even sounds like you feigned interest in the Power Ranger's conversation.

Additionally, I find your use of the term "nerds" to be highly offensive. You are clearly claiming to be one, throwing out that tidbit about all the action figures you own, and yet you toss the term out like a mean jock in an 80's movie. 

You are the worst kind of person.

Why don't you write an article explaining why you felt the need to attack the attendees? You have no reason. You thought you'd be 'cool.' People might find it funny. Now, you're just avoiding the questions and problems put to you. You're putting yourself on the offensive, because people were highly offended and you're ashamed of the way you acted.

It seems more like you wrote this rebuttal to convince yourself you did nothing wrong than to convince us.

Matthew J. Reisser
Matthew J. Reisser

Wow, what a uppity bitch. I will now use this paper just to wipe my ass with when adventuring outdoors.

dave886
dave886

'Comic books - ew. It was meant as sarcasm.' 

Let's see. Sarcasm - harsh or bitter derision or irony. There was no irony. There was no reason for harsh or bitter derision. You could have said 'After the long drive and parking, I was disappointed for what we got for $9'. 

One of your major criticisms was that not enough people dressed up and their costumes weren't entertaining enough for you. Are they monkeys in a zoo? Were they supposed to dress up for your amusement? Did you dress up for them? If not, you were part of the problem you were decrying.

The internet doesn't need another rude, arrogant, insulting person thinking they're clever. It has more than it's share of those. 

ProudFemaleNerd
ProudFemaleNerd

No Con, no matter how small, deserves this kind of abuse. Cons are *supposed* to be a fun, safe place for like-minded people to get together and share their interests. No matter how strange or weird that interest may seem to you, keep your negative comments to yourself. Join the Silence, and you may learn something cool (like about bow-ties).

Olivia Holstein
Olivia Holstein

grow up and fucking apologize Conti. how unprofessional.

arianna.james85
arianna.james85

Maybe its because there is not a sarcasm font. You have to make sure your audience knows when you are being sarcastic.  Your original article came across as bullying to everyone who attended the con and was a vendor at the con. I didn't go and I thought it was quite bitchy. If you are saying that you are a person who "own(s) enough action figures as a 24-year-old woman to embarrass the hell out of my mother. Most important, I live to see people fly their freak flags as high as they possibly can." then maybe you should have started with that. Then you could have said that you were excited to go to the con, and then that you felt disappointed that it did not live up to your expectations. Then you could have identified that YOU are a nerd, and not just insulting everyone who attended the con. Then the intended sarcasm may have gone over better. 

ztakxilef
ztakxilef

Another thing I noticed, and I'd post this on the "apology" article but comments appear to be disabled.

The title "To Everyone Upset About THAT Palm Con Article"

The use of that is distancing language,  like the article just happened and was nobody's fault.  A sincere apology would have used "Our Palm Con Article" instead, showing ownership of the article and therefore, the mistake.


I could overlook poor word choice from the average Joe, but wordsmithing is a journalist's forte. It's hard to imagine that the word choice was unintentional.

Eric Anthony Pagoada
Eric Anthony Pagoada

I think what the author of that article is not understanding is that in journalism, you DON'T include your opinion. "Would you not agree that writing that I liked the event would be more offensive than writing that I found it lackluster?" You shouldn't have written either. No one cares if you had a bad time. Don't take out your anger from your bad time by being a poor journalist-wannabe. The author seems to have no idea what journalism even is. And the fact that they didn't retract this, but rather let her write a RESPONSE to the negative feedback? In which she's not even apologizing but rather instigating the situation? This proves that the New Times not only has poor writers, but poor management. But then again, this is South Florida. You can't expect anything better than this because this is common place. The situation is somewhat comical, given that it would appear to be a satire. What's unfortunate is that it's not a satire, and this person really does believe that this is good journalism work even though they don't even know how to properly write an article.

josetteredwolf
josetteredwolf

wow I thought New Times employed adult writers. This is one of the most immature articles I have ever read. Print worthy I think not.  

jenna_michele
jenna_michele

In case you didn't get the memo, it's not cool to mock people for enjoying nerd hobbies anymore. Welcome to 2013. Instead of crying about it in a second article in the tone of a 15 year old, own up to not being the writer you thought you are apologize for it, grow, and move on. Take some college classes on journalistic integrity - the place for this tripe is your private blog, not a published publication.

Russell Burlingame
Russell Burlingame

What really steams me here is the immediate jump to vilify anyone who disagrees with her as "bullies" when it was, in fact, Conti whose behavior reeked of bullying at the outset.

CookehOfDoom
CookehOfDoom

While it's nice to see that you are all severely butt-hurt over what one person... and I'll repeat ONE PERSON had to say about the whole event. I have entered plenty of one day events that have felt exactly like this. While I personally have done what I could to make the best of it, as a journalist she has every right to post her opinion on how she felt about the event. Even if you all find it to be opposing of yours.

Jenna Michele Shumate
Jenna Michele Shumate

In case you didn't get the memo, it's not cool to mock people for enjoying nerd hobbies anymore. Welcome to 2013. Instead of crying about it in a second article in the tone of a 15 year old, own up to not being the writer you thought you are, grow, and move on. Take some college classes on journalistic integrity, the place for this is your private blog not a published and paid for article.

denniscaleroart
denniscaleroart

What I find sad is that rather than interpret the swell of negative reactions to her post as a sincere response to truly ugly ideas,  Ms. Conti, who I'm sure in "real life" is a fine person,  has done something that all intellectually disingenuous people do when faced with an honest emotional reaction to their work: they pick the most extreme reactions and hold them up as typical in order to deflate the integrity of the initial response.  

The reality is she attacked, without provocation, people who only want to read, look at art and dress up in funny costumes.  At the risk of being grandiose, in a world where political leaders gas their own citizens, including children, of their own country, of all the truly violent, selfish and base people to turn "sarcasm" on, attacking comic fans attending a small show hardly seems worthy of Ms. Conti's genuine talent.

And rather than simply say "hey, I was trying to be funny, it didn't come off," and hey, we've all been there, she simply chooses to continue to insult the people she's already insulted.  As I stated, it's intellectually disingenuous, and its cowardly and it's wrong.  The only thing worse than doing something wrong is to refuse to admit it and make it right.

Unfortunately, we also live in a world where base "journalism" is rewarded.  We like to see other people ridiculed, deluded by the childish notion that somehow it takes the target off of us.  So Ms. Conti will probably ride this wave to something "better," meaning the opportunity to ridicule some other harmless soul.  If only she would turn that razor sharp wit to a target more worthy of her efforts.


But hey...

She's only 24.  She may smarten up.

nerd-tastic
nerd-tastic

LMFAO!  It's nice to see at least someone has a sense of humor. People are so fucking sensitive. I bet half of the people commenting on how they hated your article were the same people that bitched about how awful the con was on the countless facebook posts I saw all throughout the con. 

orly21211
orly21211

You're trying to collect unemployment aren't you? You just got reprimanded and you come back to insult more instead of appologize. wow, you are a very sad person!

apoehler
apoehler

You're really not a good writer at all. Please stop and consider another career path, because this one is not for you.

Gaseous
Gaseous

Life is short... don't be a bitch.

grackene
grackene

Why didn't you review the con then? All you did was insult the people that went there. Then in your follow up post you try to use the word "nerds" as derogatory. You are disgusting human being and I feel sorry for you. Why don't you appologize for making fun of children and well everyone? You were NOT being sarcastic you were being a bitch. Just fucking own it.

redconvoy
redconvoy

@blart Yes they are married and yes they do find love. There are people that are married with kids that like to collect comics.  Would you say the same about the people who create them at the various comic book companies??

artfrankmiami
artfrankmiami

@genjiworks I look at her article this way. I myself hate Breaking Bad because I hate shows about losers and drug dealers as the "Heros". Her article is like me reviewing Breaking Bad with this perspective and ignoring the fact that it is a well written, acted and directed show.

blart
blart

@crazysk8_er "please do not insult the name Batman by even letting it into your vocabulary"

hahhahahaahaha

artfrankmiami
artfrankmiami

@sunnypotato Oh, too funny. I said the same thing, quouting her "freak flags" and chastising her for the "nerd" comment! I wish I had read the comments before I spent the time to craft an accurate critique as you seemed to have done a better job at it!

PixiePie
PixiePie

@CookehOfDoom  What is the point of reviewing a comic con if you aren't even interested in that scene? She just wanted to make fun of people. She wasn't honestly reviewing anything, just "making fun of nerds."

joeyd305
joeyd305

@CookehOfDoom Of course she has the right to post her opinion, but then do we not have the same right to respond? Admittedly, some of the responses have been stupid, but angry people are often irrational. Also, the rancor has little to do with her opinion of the convention, and more to do with the way she seemed to judge those who attended.

PixiePie
PixiePie

@nerd-tastic  Facebook is a personal venue. This twit is treating journalism as one treats a personal Facebook post.

blart
blart

@redconvoy i don't know, would those people send death/rape threats and misogynistic slurs to someone for making fun of a comic convention on the internet?

ProudFemaleNerd
ProudFemaleNerd

@blart I was outraged by the article and I have not sent any death/rape threats nor misogynistic slurs. I don't believe in doing those things. Besides, the latter two would be really weird coming from me, as I am a woman.  While I don't condone sending threats, I do condone being outraged. 

ProudFemaleNerd
ProudFemaleNerd

@blart I was outraged by the article and I have not sent any death/rape threats nor misogynistic slurs. I don't believe in doing those things. Besides, the latter two would be really weird coming from me, as I am a woman.  While I don't condone sending threats, I do condone being outraged. 

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