Pit Bulls Already Banned in a Dozen Countries

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Pit bulls have been banned the world over
Though a proposed ban on Broward County pit bulls was shelved last night, if the legislation reemerges in some form -- and actually passes -- the prohibition on the dog wouldn't be anything unusual.

In 1989, Miami may have been one of the first communities to ban pit bulls -- but it sure hasn't been the last, raising questions as to whether it's only a matter of time before every municipality imposes some sort of regulation on the animal.

Already, more than a dozen countries have banned pit bulls, making it, quite possibly, the most regulated and feared dog in the canine world.

Composed from various online resources, here's a breakdown of the bans and regulations:

Countries that have enacted regulation on pit bulls (or some deviation):
**In 1991, Singapore prohibited the entry of pit bulls into the country.
**In 1993, the Netherlands banned pit bulls.
**In 1997, Poland enacted legislation enforcing pit bull owners to display "clear warning signs" and keep the animal behind reinforced fencing.
**In 2000, France banned pit bulls. The goal was to let the breed "die out."
**In 2001, Germany banned pit bulls.
**In 2001, Puerto Rico banned pit bulls.
**In 2003, New Zealand banned the importation of pit bulls.
**In 2004, Italy banned pit bulls.
**In 2009, Australia prohibited the imports of pit bulls.
**In 2009, Ecuador banned pit bulls as pets.
**In 2010, Denmark banned pit bulls and pit bull breeding.
**In 2014, Venezuela will ban pit bulls.

Nationwide, a ban on pit bulls is also far from exceptional.

Cities that have laid down some sort of legislation:

Sioux City, Iowa; Council Bluffs, Iowa; Independence, Missouri; Royal City, Washington; Denver, Colorado; Springfield, Missouri; Youngstown, Ohio; Melvindale, Michigan; and, Livingston County, Michigan.

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ExpatNetherlands
ExpatNetherlands

I had written to the blogger previously, but I am assuming - given the lack of response or correction - and not to mention the overall inaccurate content of this post, that he has no interest in accuracy or credibility. In any event, pit bulls are NOT banned in the Netherlands. They were banned, but it was REPEALED - EIGHT years ago. Even more interesting, it was repealed because it had NO impact on dog bite incidence or increases in public safety at all - i.e. it was an utter failure in terms of its stated goal - making the public safer and protecting against serious injury from dangerous dogs. 


I recently moved to the Netherlands from the U.S. - and I moved my American Pit Bull Terrier with me. I had absolutely no problems at all - it was the exact same process and documents required for him as were required for moving my two cats - nothing extra for the fact that I was moving a dog, or that he is a registered pit bull. 


Anyway, this blog is littered with inaccurate statements - the least of which is the Netherlands issue - but I think it about sums up the quality of this post and this blogger - nothing but misinformation and knee-jerk statements that are not based on facts - used to prop up an argument that, on an emotional level, some people like to believe because it puts things into neat boxes and 'good' and 'bad' terms (which doesn't require a lot of critical thinking). However, logically, based on sound data and research, the arguments for pit bull bans do not stand up (which is why the Netherlands repealed their pit bull ban). 


And really, can anyone make a worse argument than 'everyone else is doing it! We should too!' Are we now arguing to pass legislation based on the mentality of a middle schooler? 


Pathetic. 

loutownslugger2
loutownslugger2

Here's what you guy's don't understand. Here's a riddle for you. Yes any animal will bite, nip you on the hand when threatened. You say "owie dogie bit me".. Yes those are common bites. But here's when you neanderthal pitbull owners who insist on owning the most dangerous breed don't understand. Serious dog bites, bites that require hospitalization. In 2008 9,500 dog bites required hospitalization, and Pitbulls were responsible for 68% of those attacks. Fatal dog attacks 95% this year. Yes any dog will bite in defense, nip ya, it's reported as a dog bite. But what you buffoons fail to realize is that Pitbulls are responsible for the vast majority of serious bites, bites that require you to be hospitalized. No dog breed comes with in a 1/5 of pitbull maiming's. So yes a poodle can bite you on the hand, that's a dog bite. But serious dog bites, almost everyone is a pitbull. Fatal attacks, serious attacks, maiming's. Be sure pitbull neanderthals to look at that part, when reviewing dog bite numbers. Sure any little dog when threatened will bite you, but pitbulls are responsible for the vast majority of "SERIOUS" attacks. An almost all killings. But why bother. Talking to you pitbull neanderthals is like trying to teach a monkey new tricks.

grandma3d
grandma3d

This is a very sad situation, I know pit owners love their dogs however, there is just no way to avoid the huge elephant in the room, it is inevitable pit bulls need to be banned. It doesn't matter if you raised them in a loving home since they were born/ It doesn't matter if you have him/her trained. They snap and revert back to their instinctive behavior and kill. These animals must go. ASAP. They are taking babies out of their crib at night they KILL THE BABY AND THEN EAT IT!!!  There are too many people getting killed by pit bulls and every year it will get worse. 

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

FALLOUT FROM THE SOLESKY PIT BULL RULING:

A class action Complaint seeking injunctive and declaratory relief has been filed in the United States District Court for the District of Maryland that addressed this issue, captioned Weigel v. State of Maryland, (Case No.: 1:12-cv-02723-WDQ). Plaintiffs in Weigel sued on behalf of low-income dog owners at Armistead Gardens in Baltimore against the State of Maryland, its Governor and Attorney General, the Court of Appeals and its Chief Judge, and against the Armistead Homes Corporation.

The Weigel Complaint alleges that in response to the Tracey opinion, Armistead Homes notified the proposed class members that they are in violation of their lease and under the provisions of their membership in the cooperative association were immediately subject to termination.

In nine separate counts, the Weigel Complaint alleges against all defendants, (other than Armistead Homes), that the “unconstitutionally vague” Tracey opinion violates the plaintiffs’ of their Fourteenth Amendment rights under the United States Constitution and their rights under Article 24 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights and that it is “so overwhelmingly arbitrary and irrational” as to violate the Due Process Clause and Article 24. Plaintiffs also allege that the opinion amounts to a “seizure of property” in violation of the Fifth Amendment and in violation of Article III, Section 40 of the Maryland Constitution. The Weigel Complaint seeks a Declaration that the Tracey opinion is “unconstitutional, void an unenforceable” and that eviction of Armistead Homes tenants based on the Tracey opinion should be “preliminarily and permanently” restrained.

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GET THIS:  MARYLAND COURTS DO NOT HOLD TAVERNS - WHO DIRECTLY SERVE PATRONS ALCOHOL IN PERSON FACE-TO-FACE - RESPONSIBLE IF THEIR DRUNK PATRONS LEAVE THE BAR AND CAUSE AN ACCIDENT. 

In dismissing the cause of action, the Maryland Court of Appeals held that:

A part from statute, the common law knows no right of action against a seller of intoxicating liquors, as such, for "causing" intoxication of the person whose negligent or wilful [sic] wrong has caused injury. Human beings, drunk or sober, are responsible for their own torts. The law (apart from statute) recognizes no relation of proximate cause between a sale of liquor and a tort committed by a buyer who has drunk the liquor.

REPEAT: "HUMAN BEINGS, DRUNK OR SOBER, ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN TORTS."    Except, apparently, when the human owns a PIT BULL.  Then every person who ever heard the NAME OF THE HUMAN OWNER is responsible that human's dog's actions.

THEY HOLD A LANDLORD, WHO MAY LIVE HOURS AWAY, RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTION'S OF A TENANT'S DOG WHOM THEY MAY NEVER HAVE EVEN SEEN, NOR HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER TRAINING, CARING FOR, RESTRAINING, NOR SPAYING/NEUTERING.  THREE MALE JUSTICES, AGES 69, 75, 75 (and a female justice Age 62)  - RULED THAT AN 89-YEAR-OLD LANDLADY WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF HER TENANT'S DOG THAT SHE WAS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR WHEN THE INCIDENT OCCURRED.  YET THEY RULE A TAVERN SERVING ALCOHOL DIRECTLY TO A PERSON IS *NOT* RESPONSIBLE IF THE PATRON GETS SO DRUNK THEY LATER HARM SOMEONE.

http://www.msba.org/sec_comm/sections/litigation/newsletters/LitigationJan2013.pdf

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

HOT OFF THE PRESS!  MARCH 21, 2013:

MARYLAND LEGISLATURE PASSES ANTI-DOG-FIGHTING LEGISLATION.

The bills increase the punishment for using dogs as bait animals — imprisonment for up to three years and a $5,000 fine — the same punishment as for dog fighting.

The Senate on Thursday voted 47-0 vote to pass SB 360.  The House also gave preliminary approval to its version of the bill, HB 542.

In “baiting” a dog is used to train a fighting dog or to test the fighting or killing instinct of another dog.

Sen. Bryan Simonaire, R-Pasadena, and Del. Tony McConkey, R-Severna Park, introduced bills last March after two dogs were found with wounds in Brooklyn Park and Linthicum. But both bills didn’t get a vote by the time the regular session ended.

Simonaire and McConkey came back this year with animal rights supporters, law enforcement officials and others.

EXCERPT FROM ONE OF MY OTHER POSTS BELOW:

MD Legislative Process:http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frm1st.aspx

MD House Bills (click HB 78):  http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/pubs-current/current-house-status-report.pdf

MD Senate Bills (click SB 160):http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/pubs-current/current-senate-status-report.pdf

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

“There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.”― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Fuzatz
Fuzatz

So I am assuming all of you that ore for BSL will work to ban all 91 breeds involved in fatal attacks since 96'?  Or just the ones you hate.  If it's the latter, please tell me what pecentage of existing dogs that bite/ maul or kill is acceptable for you, instead of copying articles from dogsbite.org.  I have yet to have a BSL advocate accept this challange.

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

"I''ve trained countless pit bulls, and have found them to be among the most loyal, smart, and trainable dogs I've worked with."

Victoria Stillwell
Dog Trainer in TV Show "It's Me or the Dog", Creator of "Positively" Dog Training

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

HOT OFF THE PRESS FROM AN HOUR AGO - TENNESSEE WITHDRAWS ITS BSL PROPOSAL!!!

ANOTHER STATE DUMPS DISCRIMINATION, BIGOTRY AND HATRED AGAINST INNOCENT DOGS AND THEIR BELOVED FAMILIES.

HERE IS AN UPDATED LIST FOR YOU RAGE-FUELED PIT BULL HATERS TO CHERISH:

States that PROHIBIT BSL:

CALIFORNIA (allows spay/neuter BSL),
COLORADO, 
FLORIDA, 
ILLINOIS, 
MASSACHUSETTS, 
MAINE, 
MINNESOTA, 
NEW JERSEY, 
NEW YORK, 
OKLAHOMA, 
PENNSYLVANIA, 
TEXAS,
VIRGINIA.

Other states in progress to PROHIBIT BSL are 

CONNECTICUT (two state legislators are pit bull owners), 
NEW MEXICO, 
NEVADA, 
RHODE ISLAND.

States who have DROPPED proposed BSL-contaminated legislation:
TENNESSEE
FLORIDA (BROWARD COUNTY)
OKLAHOMA

States that recently REVERSED existing BSL:
OHIO
MARYLAND - Both houses of their State Legislature unanimously voted to REVERSE an Appellate Court's ruling that 1) Pit Bulls are inherently dangerous and 2) that landlord's (and other third parties) are responsible for the actions of tenant's dogs.

<cough> <ahem>  Who says BSL is SPREADING?   A small town with 200 people here and there?  The only thing spreading is hater lies.  Notice a pattern here?

twotons
twotons

I did not want the word ban to imply anything other then that I  am saying and I agree fully that in some way, form or fashion Pit bulls are regulate or banned. Further that laws enacted or repealed are done so with deference to Pit bulls. I am saying you are drawling a conclusion from a repeal that not only is incorrect but not relevant to establishing the dangerousness of Pit bulls which regulations bans and repeals all testify to. .  Further that the three issues before Ohio since the repeal are Pit bulls then ,  rather highlights that regardless of laws, that you and me,  we, both agree and I support that  all dog breeds and owners should be held to the same standard, is  that pit bulls and there owners are suffering the consequences of those laws. This fact   reveala them as the number one most dangerous breed. Not  what you are proposing , that a repeal is a agreement by a state that they are not dangerous. You are trying make a connection that not only does not exist but is not relevant to the inherent dangerousness of Pit bulls. Rather it highlights it. My question is how did you come to a different conclusion??

digomide165
digomide165

@loutownslugger2 You are right man. Pitbull owners are uneducathed, they must be taught some lessons. It seams they ignore the FACTS the breed was created to fight, that when they bite they refuse to drop the attack, and even breeders admit they were not meant to get along with other pets. They are uneducathed because they live in society, but dont give a crap about the society, children and neighboors safety, no matter how many pitbulls attacks are well documented (across the globe, from china, to muslim countries, to america and latin america what discard the possibility of a "plot" against it you morons). they always came up with petty excuses: oh but my pitbull is docile, pitbulls are like any other dog, pitbulls attack because of its the owner not the dog, blah blah blah. Serious you idiots? Is that the best you can make up?  Society is not suppose to pay for your bad treatment of the dog you bastards (which is irrelevant, since is more than well documented and proved they can attack for no reason at all). Take a look at street dogs, that are treated like worms, and hardly will cause any damage or get agressive at all. Yes the problem may be the owner, since any owner of pitbull is an uneducathed person, or a monkey trying to show up: Oh loook how tough i am with my pitbull. Perhaps they should not ban only the pitbull, but their owners too (altough it would be too good to be true, we work to ban of the societ only this beast they call dog)

bryn0sands
bryn0sands

You, Neanderthal, obviously don't have your research right and are projecting your swayed views on your so called numbers. Ask your own veterinarian about temperament and pitbulls are not on the list. Yes if a bite occurs it is not comparable to the chihuahua but Rottweilers laboradores and poodles bite. I work in a dog friendly company and many customers own pitbulls and they are welcome guests. The only bite which ever occurred and did require stitches was a chocolate lab.

crescent_garner
crescent_garner

@loutownslugger2   Just so you know I am a well educated neanderthal pitbull owner and so is my boyfriend.  Please do me a favor and don't reproduce, we don't need another non educated person like you having kids and spreading the "stupidity gene" you have a lot reading and educating to do on the subject before you open your mouth.  And just so you know get the whole story on the biting that has occurred for for you speak.  Usually its someone like walking up to my car and putting you hand in the window.  That car is their space and they are protecting it.  Or maybe your the person that runs/walks up to my dog and sticks your hand out....again big no no.  If you have any breed of dog please do a favor and let have a better owner then you.  you may never want to leave your house.  I was neanderthal lab owner and they bite too.  Also if you were educated you would realized numbers can be spun anyway they want you to see it...if you work, your company does it all the time to make whatever they want look they way they want.  


http://www.dogster.com/dog-breeds/pitbulls



blt54321
blt54321

@loutownslugger2I have a pitbull and she's smarter than every single other dog we have met (obviously not in the world or some shit) people say "wow your dog is so well trained" and we trust her enough to go in and out of the house as she pleases. We taught to jump through a fucking hoop in one day. Idk how you can call an entire breed of dog bad. People who train their dogs to attack are just going to find another breed if pitbulls are illegalized (prob rottweilers) then if they are illigalized, another. it's what people do with or to the dog to make them aggressive and aggressive people want to look tough so they buy a tough looking dog. you prob own a cat or something so get your bitchass out of here and stop talking shit. Btw it's teach an old dog new tricks not monkey idk if you're mentally handicapped or something, if so sorry.

bryn0sands
bryn0sands

Grandma you are seriously in need of an education. Sorry to tell you. But please think before you post.

twotons
twotons

@Fuzatz Fuzatz as long as they work on banning them in order of worst to best yes. First things first for now.

nick
nick

@BSL.Doesnt.Work yeah and their eye contact which never yields can be very intimidating to a lot of regular people.  The sad thing is you standing behind a breed that can and does 'snap' and kill little children, old adults and regular people and they don't just bite and run off, no they grab on, shake (a killer's move) and eat.  They toss babies and children around like rag dolls.  It is so obvious they have this within them unlike most breeds, that one could associate them with a wild animals that certain people try to domesticate.  


You put your reputation on the line, so there is no way you would say any breed is untrainable, yet how many videos, photos or graves have you visited to heighten your own professional knowledge about the breed?


And who's to say you're actually Victoria Stillwell, yeah sure. Oh if you are you most definitely got the job based on looks and personality, the two most sought out qualities for those shows, with knowledge a distant third.  Finally I'm a dog and animal lover, but putting an animal over the safety of children and the elderly at this point with so many unnecessary and vicious deaths is just ridiculous.  If there were this many tiger maulings the public would be outraged, but here it's just an ity bity doggie who looks so cute as a puppy… ahhh.  Face reality.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work Yes I tried to tell you their was a pattern but just in your thought process but in the fact that in non of the states you mentioned was their a issue involving any other breed. Has the vote in Maryland become law yet. What is the new law? I haven't seen it yet.

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

@twotons More Lynn Smith aka Ginny R "speak" - the pretentious "WE BOTH AGREE" to wrongly imply we support what YOU said - do NOT put words into OUR MOUTHES (pit bull advocates) - do NOT state that "WE BOTH AGREE".  Furthermore, I cannot follow a single sentence you have crafted above.  That is just a statement of fact.  I have read it three times and I truly cannot understand some sentences.

The few things I did get:

PIT BULLS ARE NOT THE MOST DANGEROUS DOGS.  Dog-bite related fatalies are HIGHEST for ROTTWEILERS, then CHOW CHOWS, then GERMAN SHEPHERDS then PIT BULLS.   There just aren't as many of them so the COUNTS are not the highest.

THAT MEANS THAT HUMANS ARE SAFER WITH A PIT BULL THAN A GSD, ROTTIE OR CHOW.  PERIOD.

 Furthermore, the term "pit bull" is a generic term that groups MANY MANY TYPES OF DOGS - both purebreds and mixes - so a dog called "PIT BULL" of course will have the MOST bites - that is merely a mathematically predictable and a logical outcome.  I cannot believe I have to explain this simple concept YET AGAIN.  You are the most thick-skulled hater yet.

Take armed robberies - if the NUMBER of those committed in Vermont is compared to those committed in CALIFORNIA - IS THAT A FAIR COMPARISON?  Or do they divide the number of robberies by the number of people in each state to get a RATE so we can fairly compare?

Let's say we decide to ALSO lump in ANYONE WHO EVER LIVED IN CALIFORNIA - what happens to robbery COUNTS?  And also lump in anyone whose PARENTS ever lived in CALIFORNIA?  And anyone who LOOKS like a Californian?  NOW WHAT IS THE COUNT OF ARMED ROBBERIES?  DOES THAT MEAN THAT CALIFORNIANS ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS, AGGRESSIVE AMERICANS?

THE ONLY THING THAT HAVING THE HIGHEST BITE COUNT INDICATES IS THAT BREED/TYPE HAS THE MOST DOGS.  I AGREE THERE ARE TOO MANY PIT BULLS AND TOO MANY BAD BREEDERS BREEDING PIT BULLS WHO SELL TO BAD OWNERS WHO DO NOT PROPERLY TRAIN, SOCIALIZE AND CAR FOR THEIR DOGS.  PIT BULLS ARE THE MOST NEGLECTED, ABUSED, CHAINED, UNNEUTERED/UNSPAYED, IMPROPERLY RESTRAINED, MISUNDERSTOOD TYPE OF DOG ON THE PLANET.  THAT IS DUE TO SCUMBAG HUMANS WHO GET THEM  FOR THE WRONG REASON.  HOWEVER, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PIT BULL OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE AND DO WHAT ALL OTHER DOG OWNERS DO - TRAIN, SOCIALIZE, SPAY/NEUTHER AND TREAT THEIR DOG LIKE A BELOVED MEMBER OF THEIR FAMILY.

WE NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON SPAY/NEUTER PROGRAMS THAN ON EUTHANIZATION IN SHELTERS AND BREEDERS NEED TO BE MORE CONTROLLED.   BREED-NEUTRAL DANGEROUS DOG LAWS AND ANTI-DOG-FIGHTING PENALTIES NEED TO BE VERY HARSH AND TREAT ALL BREEDS THE SAME.

RESPONSIBLE OWNERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IMPACTED WHEN ANY FORM OF BSL IS PASSED.  BAD OWNERS DON'T LICENSE THEIR DOGS, DON'T SPAY/NEUTER, DO ABUSE, AND NEGLECT.  SO PASSING BSL DECREASES THE NUMBER OF GOOD PIT BULLS WITH GOOD OWNERS AND INCREASES BAD BREEDERS SELLING TO BAD OWNERS.

BSL DECREASES PUBLIC SAFETY AND GENERALLY HAS THE OPPOSITE EFFECT OF THE INTENDED BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE WHO IGNORE LAWS.  PASS LAWS THAT WORK AND PUNISH THE GUILTY AND IRRESPONSIBLE OWNERS, NOT THE DOGS WHO HAVE NO CONTROL OVER ANYTHING IN THEIR WORLD.

rtarp1
rtarp1

@crescent_garner @loutownslugger2 



Simply put, border collies do not herd sheep because they are raised on sheep farms; rather, they are raised on sheep farms because they herd. In addition pointers point, retrievers retrieve, and mastiffs guard, all because those traits are part of their breed expectations, meaning strong and continuous selection in the underlying breeding program "

Simply put Pit bulls do not attack because they are raised with dog fighters and drug dealers, dog fighters and drug dealers use pit bulls because they attack!

It is their nature, their genetic truth and reality.!!

It is not how you raise them rather it is simply what they are.!!

Just like sled dogs run and pull, it is just their nature.!

A pit bull type dog is what it is and does what it is.You can no more alter it genetic makeup then you can a collies to herd, a hounds to track, a retriever's to retrieve, a labs to swim, a pointers to point, a sled dog to run and pull.



They do what they are and a pit bull type dog is a mauling violent killer that has been bred to be a land shark, nothing you do can change that, even if you have them from birth.



No matter if you love them, or how you nurture, train, rehabilitate, raise them optimally as normal dogs from birth, you can not change their Genetic reality to Kill, Maul, Maim, Disfigure, Dismember, cause Life Flights or trips to the Intensive Care Unit.


For over 600 years the current pit bull type dog was brought into being through careful selective genetic breeding to create the most violent murderous fighting dog possible

rtarp1
rtarp1

@blt54321 @loutownslugger2  just because you have a bomb that hasn't gone off doesn't mean it isn't still a bomb



Simply put, border collies do not herd sheep because they are raised on sheep farms; rather, they are raised on sheep farms because they herd. In addition pointers point, retrievers retrieve, and mastiffs guard, all because those traits are part of their breed expectations, meaning strong and continuous selection in the underlying breeding program "

Simply put Pit bulls do not attack because they are raised with dog fighters and drug dealers, dog fighters and drug dealers use pit bulls because they attack!

It is their nature, their genetic truth and reality.!!

It is not how you raise them rather it is simply what they are.!!

Just like sled dogs run and pull, it is just their nature.!

A pit bull type dog is what it is and does what it is.You can no more alter it genetic makeup then you can a collies to herd, a hounds to track, a retriever's to retrieve, a labs to swim, a pointers to point, a sled dog to run and pull.



They do what they are and a pit bull type dog is a mauling violent killer that has been bred to be a land shark, nothing you do can change that, even if you have them from birth.



No matter if you love them, or how you nurture, train, rehabilitate, raise them optimally as normal dogs from birth, you can not change their Genetic reality to Kill, Maul, Maim, Disfigure, Dismember, cause Life Flights or trips to the Intensive Care Unit.


For over 600 years the current pit bull type dog was brought into being through careful selective genetic breeding to create the most violent murderous fighting dog possible

rtarp1
rtarp1

@bryn0sands  HERE IS YOUR EDUCATION.



Simply put, border collies do not herd sheep because they are raised on sheep farms; rather, they are raised on sheep farms because they herd. In addition pointers point, retrievers retrieve, and mastiffs guard, all because those traits are part of their breed expectations, meaning strong and continuous selection in the underlying breeding program "

Simply put Pit bulls do not attack because they are raised with dog fighters and drug dealers, dog fighters and drug dealers use pit bulls because they attack!

It is their nature, their genetic truth and reality.!!

It is not how you raise them rather it is simply what they are.!!

Just like sled dogs run and pull, it is just their nature.!

A pit bull type dog is what it is and does what it is.You can no more alter it genetic makeup then you can a collies to herd, a hounds to track, a retriever's to retrieve, a labs to swim, a pointers to point, a sled dog to run and pull.



They do what they are and a pit bull type dog is a mauling violent killer that has been bred to be a land shark, nothing you do can change that, even if you have them from birth.



No matter if you love them, or how you nurture, train, rehabilitate, raise them optimally as normal dogs from birth, you can not change their Genetic reality to Kill, Maul, Maim, Disfigure, Dismember, cause Life Flights or trips to the Intensive Care Unit.


For over 600 years the current pit bull type dog was brought into being through careful selective genetic breeding to create the most violent murderous fighting dog possible

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

For those of you Maryland residents who DO NOT degrade and mock the Maryland State Legislature, here is an up-to-date synopsis of recent dog-related legislation:

DOG BITE LIABILITY ("Civil Actions - Personal Injury or Death Caused by Dog" - see link below)
1)  Bill HB 78 passed MD House unanimously.
2)  Amendment added and SB 160 passed MD Senate unanimously 46-0.
3)  Due to the amendment, goes back to the MD House for a vote.
4)  If passed, needs to be signed into law by MD Governor.

For those who care to be informed about their MD government, here are links with all the details:

MD Legislative Process: http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frm1st.aspx

MD House Bills (click HB 78):  http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/pubs-current/current-house-status-report.pdf

MD Senate Bills (click SB 160): http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/pubs-current/current-senate-status-report.pdf

VOLUNTARY SPAY/NEUTER

HOT OFF THE PRESS:  Maryland's Spay/Neuter passed the MD House, 113-23 on Monday and a few hours ago, passed the MD Senate 46-1! 

45,000 dogs and cats are tragically killed yearly in Maryland, costing taxpayers over $8 million. House Bill 767 and Senate Bill 820 establishes a voluntary, low-cost spay-neuter program for dogs and cats owned by low-income Marylanders  without raising taxes.  Thirty-four other states have instituted voluntary, low-cost dog and cat spay-neuter programs. New Jersey's program reduced euthanasia rates by 61 percent, while New Hampshire's rate decreased by 75 percent — and realized more than $3 in savings for every dollar invested.

MORE PRO-DOG LEGISLATION PASSED BY MARYLAND.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-spay-neuter-20130319,0,1644194.story

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work @twotons PS the words responsible Pit bull owner is a contradiction in terms. You may be a skilled driver if you drink and drive and don't have an accident but you are not a responsible driver. The same hold true for skilled owners like yourself. especially if you own two of them.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work @twotons  This says more then I can Thank You. I can only guess you are embarassed by you mistake when you claimed that Broward just turned back BSL when in fact they changed the language to BAN additional pit bulls but that people could keep what they have just no more. If that is a win then once again we agree.

blt543211
blt543211

@rtarp1 @blt54321 @loutownslugger2 I literally laughed out loud when I read this ahahaahaha omg. If I took oh say a Border Collie that grew up in a normal suburban household, brought it out to a farm, then told it to herd sheep would it do it?? Of course not because it has not been trained to do that, it is of course easier to train a border collie to herd sheep then it would be for other breeds because it's in their genetics that are responsible for their PHYSICAL attributes but they are MAMMALS they learn through experience, very little is automatic. 


A spider on the other hand is born knowing everything it will ever need to know to survive, there is no training it to spindle a web or catch bugs it actually is hard coded into the spider's DNA to just do it without knowing why.


Dogs are like people, they favor nurture over nature, if a Pitbull is raised in a normal household where there is no fighting or training for fighting, it will not be biting other people or dogs, just like a German Shepard isn't going to sniff out drugs if it was never trained to. As I said earlier it would be easier to train it kill because they have the physical attributes to be better fighters but they won't as long as the owners aren't bad. 


I know I didn't just change your mind on Pitbulls but your argument falls apart when you consider the fact that dogs no matter what, still need to be trained to do what they're breed is specialized in.


And I'm going to let you know that pitbulls; one: have not even existed for 600 years and is a generic term to describe a number of actual breeds, two: dog fighting has only been around since the 1800s.


I would suggest you google "the truth about pit bulls natgeo" it has a good infographic you learn a little bit from.

blt543211
blt543211

@rtarp1 @blt54321 @loutownslugger2 I literally laughed out loud when I read this ahahaahaha omg. If I took oh say a Border Collie that grew up in a normal suburban household, brought it out to a farm, then told it to herd sheep would it do it?? Of course not because it has not been trained to do that, it is of course easier to train a border collie to herd sheep then it would be for other breeds because it's in their genetics that are responsible for their PHYSICAL attributes but they are MAMMALS they learn through experience, very little is automatic. 


A spider on the other hand is born knowing everything it will ever need to know to survive, there is no training it to spindle a web or catch bugs it actually is hard coded into the spider's DNA to just do it without knowing why.


Dogs are like people, they favor nurture over nature, if a Pitbull is raised in a normal household where there is no fighting or training for fighting, it will not be biting other people or dogs, just like a German Shepard isn't going to sniff out drugs if it was never trained to. As I said earlier it would be easier to train it kill because they have the physical attributes to be better fighters but they won't as long as the owners aren't bad. 


I know I didn't just change your mind on Pitbulls but your argument falls apart when you consider the fact that dogs no matter what, still need to be trained to do what they're breed is specialized in.


And I'm going to let you know that pitbulls; one: have not even existed for 600 years and is a generic term to describe a number of actual breeds, two: dog fighting has only been around since the 1800s.


I would suggest you google "the truth about pit bulls natgeo" it has a good infographic you learn a little bit from.

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

@twotons  Then again, no one cares what you think, and no one cares what your opinion is.  We care about FACTS, punishing the GUILTY and protecting the INNOCENT.  We are not soulless, moral-less, money-grubbing greed-fueled haters using our own misfortune to bring heartache, pain and death to others.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work Some excellent information here. I do not think your last paragrapgh  judgement is correct however

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

OMG - that should read "Here is what "I", a pit bull advocate, "HAVE" provided... (ugh, I rewrote that a bunch of times and messed it up.)  As you see, me is not perfect :)

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

@twotons  Another lie. Not ONE time on this blog have I claimed to know ANYONE, not even my parents.  Why do pit bull haters make such completely unrelated, untrue statements?  To distract from our message that PIT BULLS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM - IRRESPONSIBLE HUMANS ARE THE PROBLEM AND BSL DOES NOTHING TO ADDRESS THE CAUSE OF DOG BITES.

I have posted a lot of facts, truth and logic WITH LINKS TO SOURCES from hours of research below - and have provided an encyclopedia of pertinent, educational, illuminating, factual, stimulating information helping people understand the plight of pit bulls today so they can be regarded OBJECTIVELY and FAIRLY, not thru the eyes of bigotry, discrimination and hatred.  Here is what me, a pit bull advocate, has provided to all of you interested in the topic of pit bulls:

-- CANINE BEHAVIOR & PSYCHOLOGY (reasons dogs bite, prey drive, "hold & shake", why dogs sniff, the impact of chaining dogs, what children do to and around dogs that cause higher bite incidents, etc.) 
-- STATISTICS/MATH (count vs rates and the misleading way pit bull haters used them, predictability, comparing collections to single),
-- MEDIA BIAS & FOLK DEMONS,
-- CONTROLLED DOG- & BSL-RELATED STUDIES & REAL-WORLD OBSERVATIONS (including breed identification studies),
-- EDUCATIONAL MERIT OF APTITUDE TESTS (how educational theory supports ATTS canine temperament test and validates the results),
-- DOG HUSBANDRY (proper physical and psychological care),
-- PIT BULL ADVOCATES ALTERNATIVES TO BSL (breed-neutral dog laws, penalties, etc.)
-- KEEPING CHILDREN SAFE AROUND DOGS (pledges you can recite with children so they are less likely to be attacked or get injured if they are, what causes dogs to bite children more often, dangers of dog parks & children, 
-- FACTUAL STATISTICS REGARDING DOG BITES & FATALITIES,
-- REAL-WORLD EXAMPLES OF BSL FAILURE (Council Bluffs, IA, Omaha, Aurelia, IA, Prince George Cty, MD, Denver; New Zealand)
-- REVEALED OBSCURE FACTS SURROUNDING THE MD APPEALS COURT & SOLESKY CASE THAT SHOCK THE AVERAGE PERSON (ages of retired and chief justices, regurgitation of doglies.org in majority opinion, dissenting opinion quotes that admonishes the fraudulent misinformation provided),
-- PROVIDED BACKGROUND AND UP-TO-THE-MINUTE UPDATES ON RECENT AND IN-PROGRESS BSL LEGISLATION (lists of states that have/are prohibit BSL, have recently rescinded BSL, etc. - TN, MD, NM, Broward Cty, FL, etc.)
-- A LONG LIST OF UNSOLICITED DOG BITES - from LEERBURG.COM, where you really have to search to find "PIT BULL" - a list FREE FROM MEDIA BIAS
-- A LIST OF RESPECTED, WELL-KNOWN CANINE ORGS WHO ARE AGAINST BSL and also some positive pit bull quotes from highly-regarded, worldwide canine experts
-- HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY (Human Hate theories, pit bull hater inconsistency on Genetics claims, discrimination & bigotry, Lexicon nuances)
-- REGARDING COUNTS vs RATES - I provided 1) a mathematical explanation of the difference, 2) the importance of the numerator and denominator, and 3) three simple illustrative examples:  NYC vs Tinytown, 4 Dog Breeds in REALville, Rhode Island to California and a bonus Ford F150 Pickups and culpability. 

PIT BULL HATERS ARE ONE-TRICK PONIES - THEY COPY AND PASTE FROM DOGSBITE.ORG WITHOUT ANY CRITICAL THOUGHT OR COMPASSION.  INCESSANT COPY/PASTE REGURGITATION.  They offer NOTHING to help people UNDERSTAND DOGS and PREVENT DOG BITES.  They really just want to kill innocent dogs, they care deeply about their rage & hate. They cannot intelligently and truthfully refute the pit bull advocacy so they distract with trite, dronelike replies.  I feel another coming.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work @twotons

I can’t dispute your claims about my education as I have only a General diploma from the Baltimore City School system. I doubt they are embarrassed by me since I would tend to be the standard. I have done much media so clearly I am not unable to communicate in writing because I am stupid rather I am uneducated. If I was stupid it would have made my success on bringing this issue to the fore front remarkable instead of as those who know me will attest to very likely if I am involved. By the way this is a animal law symposium with all of your side conducting it. How could you not be there I thought you knew all of these folks?

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

@twotons  Dogs were bred for different jobs.  Dogs have different physical sizes and characteristics.  The larger and more powerful the dog, the more control the owner must have and the more careful the owner must be to restrain and train their dog.  When owners FAIL to do this, they CAUSE THEIR DOGS TO FAIL.  If an owner CANNOT or WILL NOT properly care for, train and restrain a dog, they should absolutely avoid a large dog because a mistake with a large dog is more serious than a small dog.  Because OWNERS FAIL does NOT mean that all those dogs are BAD.  Any dog can bite, maul, maim.  More powerful dogs, by laws of physics, can do more damage.  LAWS NEED TO BE PASSED MAKING OWNERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DOGS ACTIONS AND FOR PREVENTATIVE MEASURES LIKE LAWS FOR CARE, LEASHING, KENNELS, CHAINING, AGGRESSION SO THAT BITES CAN BE PREVENTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.  SPAY/NEUTER PROGRAMS SHOULD BE WELL-FUNDED TO REDUCE BAD BREEDERS FROM BREEDING.  HARSH PENALTIES FOR INFRACTIONS ON DOG FIGHTING, ABUSE, NEGLECT INCLUDING PROHIBITING ANYONE CONVICTED FROM EVER OWNING AND BREEDING DOGS AGAIN NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

BANNING AND RESTRICTING DOGS THAT LOOK A CERTAIN WAY IS LUDICROUS AND DOESN'T WORK.

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

@twotons  You will be an embarrassment to whatever your alma mater is.  You cannot spell, you have poor grammar skills, you cannot construct a coherent sentence, go off on unrelated tangents and you are a close-minded bigot.  I'm sure you'll knock their socks off.  I'd give anything to be there and watch the train wreck.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work @twotons Also are you going to be at George Washington U on the 27th. You will get to ask me all of the questions you want I will be on the panel.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work @twotons Make it all Poodles and change it to 100,000,000

So then you conceded that many dog breeds inherent physical attributes that would make them all more dangerous then those dogs that do not inherent these physical traits. Further that among these inherent physically traits Pit bulls are in the top of the list of the extreme in these. You just don’t believe dogs inherent behavior traits and so I can train a beagle to fight like a Pit bull because they all dogs are the same physiologically? So Poodles are deemed tied for second as the smartest dog how can one dog be smarter then another by your thinking? Interesting projection ?

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

@twotons just cannot understand the simple math concept of COUNTS vs RATES.  Here we go again, this is the FOURTH time.  Will the pea brain get it this time?  Doubtful, but I know others will and see how senseless and stupid the statement he made above is.

"A pit bull is 100,000 time more likely to kill a person then [his word, not mine] a poodle."
First, poodles range in size from under 10 lbs (toy) to over 100 lbs (Standard), so BAD EXAMPLE.  Pit bull advocates do not make preposterous claims that defy the laws of physics.  Haters put those claims into our mouths.  To say a chihuahua or toy poodle cannot do as much damage as a pit bull...or Rottie...or Lab...or Golden is an obvious scientific fact that has to do with mass, torque, pressure.  If you are talking TOY poodle, than your number is grossly low.  Where did you get "100,000 times" and which poodle breed does it refer to?

"Pit bulls are the number one killer."
Please take a moment to read some FACTS below instead of sucking at the teat of the doglies.org fraud filled with misinformation and lies.  Are you completely unable to grasp the concept of COUNTS (indicator of POPULARITY of a breed) versus RATES (indicator of degree of DANGER of a breed)? It is really a simple math concept and I provided multiple examples in other blog posts below as well.  Here we go AGAIN.  5 sentences.  Concentrate.

"New York City (pit bulls) has the MOST murders of any city in the United States.  It has MORE MURDERS than Tinytown, MT (toy poodles)." Is it a valid conclusion that ALL NEW YORKERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO MURDER SO WE SHOULD BAN THEM FROM OUR CITIES AND KILL THEM IF THEY COME TO OUR TOWN?

NO!!!!  It merely indicates that that NEW YORK IS THE LARGEST CITY so will have more of everything related to people like murders!  To determine your likelihood of being murdered by a New Yorker vs Tinytowner, you have to divide TOTAL MURDERS by POPULATION for each city.

What is so hard to understand about this?  Why do haters keep misleading us by saying pit bulls are the most dangerous?  Why can't they understand that COUNTS just indicate the popularity of a dog?

PIT BULLS ARE NOT THE MOST DANGEROUS BREED - BUT THEY ARE THE MOST POPULOUS OF LARGE BREEDS.  REGARDING HUMAN FATALITIES, ROTTWEILERS (#1), CHOW CHOWS (#2) and GERMAN SHEPHERDS (#3) ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN PIT BULLS.  IRRESPONSIBLE HUMANS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MOST OF THE DOG ATTACKS - improperly restrained/loose/chained dogs, improperly trained/socialized, unmonitored, unneutered/unspayed, abused, starved/neglected - which is why BREED BANS & RESTRICTIONS don't work.  Blaming the BREED does nothing, absolutely NOTHING to increase public safety.  Dog-bite related fatalities and serious dog attacks are STATISTICALLY RARE - there are approx 314 million people in the US, 78 millions DOGS and approx 5 million "pit bulls" and there is an annual TOTAL of about 20-30 fatalities and approx 800,000 hospitalizations.  Pit bull haters and the media just make it APPEAR there's an out-of-control epidemic. Many more children are killed by their PARENTS - about 1400 - than dogs much less pit bulls in a year.

A controlled study of canine aggression showed that the TOP THREE most aggressive dogs are Dachshund, Jack Russell Terrier and Chihuahua - but of COURSE they don't do as much damage as a large dog and most of those bites go unreported and of course they don't have the mass and power of a large dog so CANNOT inflict as much damage.  NO DOG IS 100% SAFE and 100% RELIABLE.

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

Ummmmm, how did you turn TEXTING WHILE DRIVING into a MANUFACTURER DEFECT?  Another pit bull hater technique - don't address the REAL issue which you cannot win, say something COMPLETELY unrelated and then address that.  BUSTED HATER.  YOU LOSE.

TRUTH:  There will be an occasional bad tire or malfunctioning ignition or defective belt here or there.  If the problem isn't bad, NO SENSE IN SCRAPPING THE ENTIRE VEHICLE - just fix the problem and drive the truck again when its safe.  AND THAT CERTAINLY DOESN'T MEAN ALL FORD F150'S ARE BAD AND THAT THEY SHOULD ALL BE BANNED AND SCRAPPED, DOES IT?  If you cannot stay on topic, keep the stupid yap shut because you WILL be called out and you only make YOURSELF look like a fool.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work When you say BSL doesn't work do you mean as far as keeping Pit Bulls from killing people and pets. Do you mean that even when they modify the laww to be breed neutral and Pit Bulls are still the number one killer. Do you mean as a diterent or do you mean to get victims recourse. Beacuse if you mean that no matter what law you have if someone has a Pit bull it is 100,000 times more likely to kill a person then a Poodle. Then I will agree you are correct. Of course I am just using inusurance information and Police reports which would say you are correct nothing stops these dogs but bans so that the act of owning one is criminal.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work

If the F150 was the cause of the accident because the vehicle had a inherent defect as a result of the manufactures design, then as with any recall I would go after the manufacturer of the F150. Your scenario proclaims drivers era which is completely different. I contend that Pit bulls are inherently dangerous because in fact a dog breed is a manufacture of man just like a F150 . This is why they are called breeds and the people who manufacture them breeders. You are trying to compare a accident caused by drivers error to one caused by a defective tire and saying because the driver was not skilled enough to overcome the circumstance they still hold the blame. If your breed requires that much skill to drive and one safely it is the cause of the accident and is defective and it should be recalled. You like to answer your own questions keep posting.

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

Let's take this example you think is so clever a little farther, shall we?  If a 26-year-old man with a revoked license is driving a Ford F150 pickup truck, is texting someone and drives off the road and hits a young boy playing in his own front yard, who or what is to blame for the boy's injuries?

We all know YOUR answer.  The salesperson who sold the guy the truck.  Oh wait, maybe the loan officer who approved the loan?  And we know what old dudes would agree with either of those preposterous claims because BOTH SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HE WAS A BAD DRIVER.  But on to reasonable answers.

Pit bull advocates would say "It was the driver of the pickup.  Not all Ford F150 pickups drive off the road and hit little boys, it depends on who is driving them."  And that would be a very true and reasonable statement.

Pit bull haters would SCREAM "YOU JUST CANNOT ADMIT THAT FORD F150 PICKUP TRUCKS ARE DEATH MACHINES OWNED BY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ACT TOUGH AND MEAN.  THEY ARE VICIOUS, EVIL VEHICLES THAT SHOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM ALL ROADWAYS AND SMASHED AND SOLD FOR SCRAP.  IT IS OBVIOUSLY THE FAULT OF THE F150 PICKUP TRUCK WHO HIT THE BOY, SO THAT IS THE PROBLEM.  AND WHILE WE'RE AT IT, LET'S BAN PICKUPS FROM ALL OTHER MAKERS TOO.  AND MAYBE ALL 4WD VEHICLES WHILE WE'RE AT IT."

Thank YOU for that wonderful lead in.  I owe ya, little dude.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work So it is ok to eat crows because you don't like them as much as the bald eagle. I remember learning that the turkey was also proposed as the national symbol and we have a whole and completely American tradition built around eating them. I just don't suffer from Bird Specific langauge or BSL discrimination

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

Unlike most haters, I post the sources where the research I post was drawn from.  The link to the article clearly stating that the Broward County pit bull ban was WITHDRAWN COMPLETELY (this is after the change in wording to grandfather existing pits) is above.  Anyone who can click and read can see my source.  There is an error in the article linked to above - the other ordinances passed relating to dog fighting and rabies were NOT pit-bull-specific as the article states. If they were, they'd be illegal in Florida.

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

Mocking the Maryland Legislature and now joking about eating the symbol of our country,  the once endangered magnificent symbol of liberty and strength?  The ideals our troops fight for and some die defending.  And you joke about eating it.  Pathetic.

twotons
twotons

@BSL.Doesnt.Work @twotons Are we reading the same article?  I absolutely know it was a proposed ban on Pit bulls again and no other breed and that after the hearing it only compelled her to change the language it the propsed ban. I am also awaree of the challenges any one wanting to do so in a anti BSL state is up against and you are correct. What I am telling you is this is always the breed bans and/or regulations and or proposed bans revolve around and no matter the law the breed that will be involved in these incidents. What you gather from that and what I do is interesting. Yes I have eaten crow and it taste alot like Bald Eagle.

BSL.Doesnt.Work
BSL.Doesnt.Work

@twotons Have you ever tasted crow?  I haven't, but let me know what it tastes like because you're going to have a taste shortly.

First, FLORIDA PROHIBITS BREED-SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN LOCAL LAWS.  Miami's BSL was grandfathered.  Vice Mayor Sharief's plan was to propose and pass the Broward County Pit Bull ban, and THEN petition the state of Florida to allow it to stand.  SO, even if the proposed pit bull ban was passed, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN INVALID AND UNENFORCEABLE UNTIL THE STATE OF FLORIDA GRANTED OR DENIED THEIR PETITION.

You stated that Broward County passed the BAN, but allowed existing "pit bulls" to remain.  You are so utterly confused and spreading lies as a result.  The PROPOSED ban's wording was changed to grandfather in existing pit bulls, but sadly for haters like you, a PROPOSED LAW is not the same as a PASSED LAW and in this case if it HAD passed, would still have been just some words on a piece of paper.

Hey little guy, can you read this next paragraph to all of us out loud?  We are just checking to make sure you CAN read:

"A proposal to ban pit bulls in Broward County, was withdrawn today at the county's commission meeting."

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2013/02/broward_county_pit_bull_proposal_withdrew.php

OPEN MOUTH, INSERT FOOT.  Who's walking around with toilet paper hanging out of their pants now?  I just checked, and it isn't ME...

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