Terry Jones, on Why He Hanged Obama in Effigy: Exclusive Interview

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Gainesville pastor Terry Jones says his church has been contacted twice by the Secret Service in response to the display at the Dove World Outreach Center that features an effigy of President Barack Obama hanging from a noose. (The photograph sent to us shows an Uncle Sam dummy hung up; one from the Smoking Gun shows Obama in the noose.)

The Pulp spoke with him this afternoon about the display and about his declarations that he is running as a write-in candidate for president. Jones said the display was not meant to have any racial symbolism and was only "a symbolic action saying we do not, of course, want him reelected. It is death -- of course, not to him. To his political career."

When asked whether he thought his message might get lost behind the physical display of a black man with a noose around his neck, Jones said, "Quite honestly, I never even thought about that.

"We are not looking at him as a black man. He is not black; he is not white; he is the president of the United States," he said. "And the noose, of course, was to represent the death of his presidency and political career. Not at all to represent his race... His race has absolutely nothing to do with it."

He also said that the Secret Service was "definitely" justified in looking into the matter and that "we tried to make it clear that it's not a death threat."

I asked if he was concerned that rhetoric like this (a news release had the headline "Terry Jones on Obama -- Hang 'Em High") could lend legitimacy to people who don't see it metaphorically, people who do think the president should be harmed.

"I actually don't think so," he said. "I think these people who think like that, they are going to continue to think like that no matter what you do. They might use things that you do as an excuse."

When asked if he brought attention to his messages by doing intentionally offensive things, Jones said, "That's definitely not our reason. We have continued to do things whether we got attention or not... We're devastated by the condition of America."

Next question. A lot has been said about the frenzied tone of American political discourse over the past few years -- why do you think hanging effigies of the president is a productive way to influence the electoral discussion?

"I think it's a way; I think it may not be the best way, just like the burning of the Qur'an is not the best way to get your message across about radical Islam," he said. "[There's] a need to be [controversial] at times in order to shake us out of our apathy and perhaps bring attention to an issue that people then begin to examine... To a certain degree, it does appear that the American people are somewhat numb sometimes to normal rhetoric."

As for his run for president, Jones said it's "definitely very possible" that people who would have otherwise supported his platform would be driven off by his publicity stunts.

"We definitely do have a lot of support, but... people think these type of methods are going a little bit too far, a little bit too intense," he said. "We chose those methods because they are the methods that we thought about, and we really felt a couple of these issues are so intense and so important that sometimes we do need a little bit of a shaking."

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riverrat69
riverrat69

Same place we're all going. Six feet under.

riverrat69
riverrat69

 You need to join the REAL world. It's not the tenth century. And the earth ain't flat.

riverrat69
riverrat69

Lidlelite16 hours agoin reply to Patriciaamen my sister, Philippians 2: 10,11 - That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Only ppl that are ignorant of who Jesus Christ is, and what His Word tells us, will always have a silly comment. Look Up 2Tim.chapter 3 - we live in perilous times, men love their selve more than lovers of Jesus. Obama is definitely the forerunner for the anti-christ..... You're posting under the wrong name......       Use LUDDITE. It's way more appropriate.

Pete Pepper
Pete Pepper

 A free country you would have enslaved by your belief and mythology?  You should check your history.  Oh and this country was founded on SECULAR principles, not christian.

Patricia Arrington
Patricia Arrington

Amen sister!! I Just am truly discusted and want to vomit when I see and hear the filth and slander againt our Lord Jesus!Expecially from the young idiots that were not educated at birth And if they were they still have the nerve to curse our LORD Jesus! This free country and the consitution of United States was a God fearing country! Now it reminds me of the days of Sodom and Gomorra anything and everything goes! I am sad about what America has become May God have Mercy on our souls!! Amen!

Patricia
Patricia

YOU can't back up what you say  Jesus saved Mary M from the people that wanted to stone her for being an adultres and told them to cast the first stone if anyone there was without sin Noone threw that first stone and He told her to go and sin no more!! AMEN THANK YOU JESUS!!

Patricia
Patricia

1 cCorinthians chapter 6 verses 9&10 tALKES ABOUT gays

Patricia
Patricia

I am not afraid of DEATH which you should be  I will be in heaven beside Jesus! AMEN

Patricia
Patricia

Romans 8:5 it talks about gays READ IT!!

Rphl
Rphl

a courageous leader of the lunatic fringe, and very unchristian, I might add

Chaz Stevens, Genius
Chaz Stevens, Genius

Shit, I thought that was a reference to my dick. I hear that from the ladies all the time.

Mark Stout
Mark Stout

Chaz, don't apologize; nobody here has read the bible. Definition for the rest: "Fat Head" means that the person speaking has never read a classical novel, and is jealous of all high school graduates.

Mark Stout
Mark Stout

You need an interview? Jones has rejected God. He's heard the command of Christ to "judge not" and said, "No. I reject Christ and I'm here to judge. Well, to judge others; not myself". Jones' organization has not come up to the plate to speak on behalf of gays and lesbians when hypocrites tried to twist the bible to slander them; Jones joined the hypocrites and spoke falsely against gays and lesbians. Jones did not respect the followers of Muhammad as brothers and sisters and obvious allies with a common belief in the same God, but slandered them as he slanders God. Jones did not celebrate the first legally elected president since Bill Clinton, but has slandered him and hanged him in effigy. Jones does not speak out for the oppressed, nor does he speak out against corruption by billionaires and their Republican lackeys. If Jones is a man of God, I'm Mother Theresa. (disclosure: I'm not actually Mother Theresa)

Christopher Neal
Christopher Neal

Chaz Stevens, Fat Head, has to brag that he has an MBA but is still an IDIOT.

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