Obama Endorses Same-Sex Marriage; It Doesn't Mean Diddly for Florida Gays

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If you've got a TV or an internet connection, you've probably already heard about President Barack Obama's statement to ABC News that "I think same sex-couples should be able to get married."

If you frequent Think Progress, you've seen the gigantic "THANK YOU OBAMA! PRESIDENT OBAMA ENDORSES MARRIAGE EQUALITY" banner they've got plastered up there. If you're more of a Fox Nation kinda web-surfer, you more likely saw the "OBAMA FLIP FLOPS, DECLARES WAR ON MARRIAGE" headline.

People are going to spin it however they want to -- including Congressman Allen West, who somehow interpreted the statement as an excuse to attack Obama for hating individual sovereignty.

But none of it matters.

It doesn't matter because Obama made it clear he intends to make sure it doesn't. As outlined by ABC:
The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states' deciding the issue on their own. But he said he's confident that more Americans will grow comfortable with gays and lesbians getting married, citing his own daughters' comfort with the concept.
Obama didn't say marriage was a universal right, and he didn't say it was time for America to embrace equality. And as long as he believes states should decide on their own, his opinion on the issue is pretty much irrelevant.

It was a step forward for the movement, sure, and a politically courageous move for him -- he has very little, electorally speaking, to gain from it. But it doesn't make a single bit of difference in North Carolina, where voters amended the state constitution to ban gay marriage. It's likewise irrelevant in the 29 other states that have banned it -- including Florida, which adopted its constitutional gay marriage ban in 2008. And his statement will be just as useless when other states move to specifically ban something that's already not allowed for in their laws.

The 4.9 million Floridians who voted to ban gay marriage didn't do so because a politician told them to -- they did it because their minds had been made up about gay people for a long time. It's not a debate in which education about the issue makes any difference, and public endorsements, even from a president, mean little when they're put up against discrimination endorsed by the Almighty.

Obama is right about his daughters being the key, though -- the generation currently in power has made it abundantly clear that, when given the choice, they will not choose to afford gay people the same rights that straight people enjoy.

But the generation currently in power will die. And their children, with any luck at all, will reverse their bigotry. Even if the president won't.
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Guest
Guest

How about equal rights for dogs.

Obama eats dogs.

Also Obama promised that if he could not fix the economy in four years,

He would be a one-term president. Pay the piper, bitch.

Pete Pepper
Pete Pepper

 Yes, President Obama ate dog when he was a kid in Asia.  So shocking that most of Asia think of dog as a delicacy.  Your xenophobia is showing again.As for the economy, our president has pulled it out of a tailspin.  I already figure you watch only FAUX "news" so you wont know whats going on around the country.  So in summation, we all now know that you are incredibly scared of anything different and have not a clue about what is going on in the world.Sometimes I think the republicans would want a better class of sycophant.

Guest
Guest

Oh, Pete you are true genius. Our economy is improved, exactly. Yes, I only watch faux news.  I am also incredibly scared and have no clue of what's going on in the world.

Feel better?

Would you like a refill for your Kool-Aid???

Guest
Guest

Yeah, but, "Hey Obama, can we please talk about jobs and the economy? That is the real issue here, quit distracting. And didn't you promise when taking office that if you didn't turn things around, you'd only serve one term? Well, ya didn't turn things around..."

Chaz Stevens, Genius
Chaz Stevens, Genius

While the talk about jobs and economy is important, by removing this issue from the table, Obama allowed that talk to proceed.

And for those folks disenfranchised by their sexual orientation, the talk about their equal rights is probably fairly important to them.

You may now return to your bible studies.

Guest
Guest

I'll bet you are a fat, round cartoon character.

In fact, I'll bet you are on libturd on government payroll where taxpayers supply your paycheck but instead of working, you call yourself a genius and blog all day on our dime.

Sickofthehypocrits
Sickofthehypocrits

Hardy,If you haven't noticed, all the issues and the timing of the issues being addressed by the President are being dictated by the Right (i.e., FOX NEWS). They picked up on the anniversary of Bin Laden and raised questions about what the President was saying about it.  They coined the phrase "War On Women" when the President said contraception should be provided by health insurance. THEY made a big deal about VP Biden saying mentioning the gay marriage thing last weekend when asked a direct question about it.So let's not be hypocritical about what's going on. The right is dictating/controlligng the national dialogue on all the issues, just so idiots like you can turn around and say the Democrats are trying to distract from the truth. Well, let's talk economy; on the rise! Oops. that would be bad for the GOP, so let's not talk that. Let's talk jobs; on the rise. Oopsm again not good for GOP. Let's talk bailouts. Wait...they were a success and saved a million jobs and homes. Oops, not good for GOP. Oh, I know, lets talke about the President's PERSONAL opinion on gay marriage, which he can't do anything about anyway. I'm sure these are the same people that thought women and blacks shouldn't have the right to vote or eat lousy pie in a southern diner that probably spit in the food anyway; same ideology and mentallity as refusing to allow gay marriage. Not to mention the hypocricy of the GOP who, although thump their 'bibles', are out there doing deviant acts in bathrooms, cheating on their wives, and fondling kidsm while claiming the moral high ground.Whatever!Obama '12!!!!

Guest
Guest

Pshhh...   Bible studies, my ass.

Equal rights? They are being used for political gain. 

Last week, it was "I am the one who killed Osama Bin Laden."

Before that, the war on women. Yet another distraction from the real issues: jobs and the economy.

Sickofthehypocrits
Sickofthehypocrits

BTW, why is it tat the Right keeps saying Jobs & economy, but when Obama says the jobs & economy were inherited, the Right complain that he can't continue blaiming Bush. Well, it took 8 years to get us into this whole, but you expect Obama to fix it in 4, while being fought every step of the way by the GOP? Is that really fair? Oops. Sorry about that, fairness, equality and opportunity are not part of the GOP talking points. "Trickle down" is the cornerstone. HAHA!

Drew4U
Drew4U

What those who are truly concerned with justice and equality need to be concerned about at election time is turnout. Who will have the most passion on this issue and show up to vote? In the end, that is all that matters, not only in a Presidential election but in regards to allowing the masses to vote on the rights of others, including the minority.

KennyPowersII
KennyPowersII

The message was outstanding. The timing was obvious. Now the professional moralists will have to focus on family values issue rather than the economy, healthcare, military budget. et al.  Without teeth, the statement will do little to right the injustice. Just another person to help push the rope up the hill.

Pete Pepper
Pete Pepper

It is still good to know that we have a president in power that stands by those three little words, "freedom for all".  Yes, it may take some time for it to actually mean something more, but its a massive start, very reminiscent of  Kennedy and Lincoln.  Already opinions have begun to shift in this country, only being slowed slightly by the right fright wing.  Eventually even those voices will figure it out and just go along with the flow of things.  Hopefully it will go faster than the Civil RIghts movement and with less problems.

Le Peerman
Le Peerman

RichYou can take it that way or you can take it that for the first time in my lifetime the President made a statement. Pretty sure the states bans will get thrown out at the Supreme Court level unless they do not understand the concept of the majority voting for the rights of the minority.Coming from an era where police used to walk into bars to see who was dancing with whom and if the womens shirts buttoned on the correct side yesterday was a good day.Le

Chaz Stevens, Genius
Chaz Stevens, Genius

Someone that I work with indicated to me that marriage is defined as a man and a woman.  Lots to do with procreating...

Using that logic, should we then ban marriages between men and women who:

1.  Don't want kids?2.  Can't have kids?

Is the marriage metric then based upon reproductive rights only?

And well, I never understood that logic... 

What about those relationships where one/both of the parents are dirtbags (say like DeadBeat Dad Lauderdale Lakes Commissioner Eric Haynes)?

Shouldn't it be about loving, healthy role models?  Mom/Dad, Mom/Mom, Dad/Dad? 

Who cares about the mixture I say... 

It's about the end result -- raising children to be happy, productive members of society...

Guest
Guest

My god you ARE a genius. True, true, children should be raised to become happy, productive members of society.

My god, where do you get this stuff?

Rich Abdill
Rich Abdill

Hi Le-- Thanks so much for comment. There's a long way to go, but you offer up some very valuable context. Much appreciated.

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