Allen West Advises That Everyone "Chill" Over the Video of Marines Whizzing on Corpses

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Rep. Allen Bernard West
As someone once wisely said, "It's better to be pissed off than pissed on."

In this case, it's allegedly the Taliban that's been pissed on and Rep. Allen West who's pissed off.

West says that he's "assessed" the video and that people should "chill" because they're getting "over-emotional."

Also -- "shut your mouth."

That's the highlight reel from West's email to the Weekly Standard on the matter and gives his recommendation that the men receive the maximum punishment under Article 15 -- which, assuming the Marines' rank is lower than West's was, would be more punishment than West received for his Iraq incident.

Here's part of the email West sent over to the Weekly Standard:

All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?

The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

In conclusion, West writes, "As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell."

Read the email in its entirety at the Weekly Standard by clicking here.


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KennyPowersII
KennyPowersII

Still can't figure out what justifies unilaterally invading,occupying and bestowing carnage on a sovereign nation without any factual justification. Unless that nation lies in the path of major pipeline routes. If they retaliate, shoot them, then make sure to piss on them. Welcome to Bizzaro World.

Diogenes6670
Diogenes6670

Look folks, we'll accept the fact that terrible things happen in the so-called "fog of war."  Desecrating human bodies is wrong, no matter who does it, but two wrongs don't make it right.  It's horrific to have seen what our enemies have done to our own soldiers and airmen; but we should be on higher moral ground.  It's one of the things that has set this country apart from our enemies since the Republic was founded.  How stupid were these guys to have made a video of what they did!  After all, it's one thing to collect a spoil of war (say, an enemy flag, knife or firearm); quite another to participate in and make a video of our troops pissing on enemy bodies. 

nanook5
nanook5

gotta agree with fqs...the idea that america has had a higher moral ground is quite the illusion. when america was founded slavery, debtor jail, and even branding for pauperism were just a few colonial habits that didn't change one bit. oh but we ended slavery & helped make the geneva convention, right? and then a few years later we helped south korea conscript (re:enslave) thousands of people into the korean war, many of whom were marched and starved to death before they saw battle.

Diogenes6670
Diogenes6670

I wrote, and believe, that we "should be on higher moral ground," not that we always have been.  You missed the point entirely, which is why it's easy to understand why you'd agree with the outrageous opinions of fqs9000.

FQS9000
FQS9000

Two wrongs frequently make a right.  Desecrating bodies is perfectly fine.  We do not have to have a higher moral ground, they opened the door and should not moan at what comes thru it.  Our soldiers have frequently been normal soldiers and have acted brutally.  Soldiers are no dumber than the 'Occupy whatever' fools.  It is perfectly fine to piss on people who would have done the same thing to you if they could.

All in all, you are 100% a fool and that is the real crime.

Diogenes6670
Diogenes6670

After reading your inane comments, you calling me a fool is the height of hypocrisy.  Just imagine the thousands, maybe millions, of militants who will hate us for this desecration and will commit themselves to the destruction of our Nation and our way of life.  Including yours!  But what the hey, I served so you'd have the right and the freedom to express whatever idiotic opinion floated across your pre-Cro Magnon brain,  That's one our greatnesses -- having opinions vetted in the open marketplace of ideas so other folks can consider them all and reach their own conclusions.  As Voltaire is reputed to have said/written:  I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.  The lesson endeth here.

KennyPowersII
KennyPowersII

Attention Mattie H. The front page of the New Times, today, has posted this picture of Allen West.

http://media.browardpalmbeach....

Since he does not honor his Commander in Chief and is more closely in tune with a fascist form of government, his bust in front of the Nazi flair seems much more appropriate than the young Allen West in his disgraced uniform. Just a suggestion but a switch in his canned portrait seems justified.

Lifelong Dem
Lifelong Dem

Why would Allen West be upset with someone's disgracing the uniform and the country? That's no more than jaywalking on his scale of values. He's a war criminal. To him, the enemy isn't human. To most of the rest of us, human is human. There is no subhuman.

FQS9000
FQS9000

There are lots of subhumans.  God does make scrap.  The right to life must be earned.  I have the right to kill people who attack my family with deadly force.  Democrats and liberals are fools who only survive because people braver and more decent than they are willing to protect them. 

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

War is hell, run by old men and fought by young men and women (although I haven't read about women pissing on anyone - that's a male thing), brings out the worst, blah, blah, blah. We all know that, most seem to agree. Then why is pissing on the corpse of a dead enemy illegal? And if we don't want it to be illegal, back to my original point, why act so morally superior about the whole incident? Pick your poison. Can't have it both ways.

FQS9000
FQS9000

Piss on them all & shoot the ones who live.

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

If they don't kill you first.

FQS9000
FQS9000

They be doing their best, which is why it is very satisfying to piss on them.

Jrowan
Jrowan

These comments support reinstituting the draft.

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

I would agree if for one second I could believe that it wouldn't just create a new generation of chicken hawks like Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney and other such draft dodgers.

willowwillow
willowwillow

you our free to sine up but may be you can just have sword fites withh in the public bath rooms???

R. D. M.
R. D. M.

sure dude, it's not enough to just kill your enemy, you need to piss on them after you've killed them?  killing is killing, isn't that enough?  Where is the leadership? don't blame everything on the people at the bottom.

paul murray
paul murray

Should have pissed on them before they killed them,just my thought.

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

Dead guys don't fight back when they're pissed on.

willowwillow
willowwillow

allen West is a good acter but what he knows just because he play the batman???

nanook5
nanook5

How reasonable. Two men getting beheaded thousands of miles away (whose country we invaded) justifies pissing on peoples corpses.

FQS9000
FQS9000

Pissing on dead Taliban is fine with me.   If the Taliban doesn't want to get pissed on, they should stick to shooting goats.  And I don't give a rat ass what the world thinks of our men doing it.  When you kill somebody in close combat, you are not confused as to what they were doing.  No trial is needed.

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

Close combat? The marines were snipers.

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

It is not the same thing and you've proven that you don't know what you are talking about. As usual, since you don't have the intelligence to debate an issue, you reveal what an ignorant asshat you are and resort to insulting liberals. Piss off (pun intended).

FQS9000
FQS9000

Same thing, except the snipers know EXACTLY who they kill, unlike liberals, who murder to do good.

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

It is not the same thing and you've proven that you don't know what you are talking about. As usual, since you don't have the intelligence to debate an issue, you reveal what an ignorant asshat you are and resort to insulting liberals. Piss off (pun intended).

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

We don't burn schools for teaching girls to read, but we desecrate temples and mosques for not being christian; we don't behead raped women for adultery, but we continue trying to legislatively force women to bear the child of a rape and refuse them health care; we don't hang seven year olds for alleged "spying", but we spy on our own people constantly for the illusion of safety; we don't execute people for being homosexual, at least not officially, but we bully and murder them nonetheless; we don't endorse the forceful exchange of child brides, but we don't do anything to prevent it either (ever been to Appalachia?); we don't make public calls for the murder of controversial artists, but we do make them using the code of the right (lock and load, baby) and controversial artists and commentators and politicians (usually liberal) do get killed; we don't deliberately and as a matter of principle target peaceable citizens for indiscriminate slaughter, unless it is another country with which we are at war, and then we kill and "acceptable" number of innocent women and children as collateral damage.

We do pretend to be less brutal than our enemies and pretend to be motivated by a higher standard. It is obvious to all but the most stupid, nationalistic and fascistic pustules of animality that YOU are. Contention of this fact implies enormous ignorance.

Nice try though.

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

We don't burn schools for teaching girls to read, but we desecrate temples and mosques for not being christian; we don't behead raped women for adultery, but we continue trying to legislatively force women to bear the child of a rape and refuse them health care; we don't hang seven year olds for alleged "spying", but we spy on our own people constantly for the illusion of safety; we don't execute people for being homosexual, at least not officially, but we bully and murder them nonetheless; we don't endorse the forceful exchange of child brides, but we don't do anything to prevent it either (ever been to Appalachia?); we don't make public calls for the murder of controversial artists, but we do make them using the code of the right (lock and load, baby) and controversial artists and commentators and politicians (usually liberal) do get killed; we don't deliberately and as a matter of principle target peaceable citizens for indiscriminate slaughter, unless it is another country with which we are at war, and then we kill and "acceptable" number of innocent women and children as collateral damage.

We do pretend to be less brutal than our enemies and pretend to be motivated by a higher standard. It is obvious to all but the most stupid, nationalistic and fascistic pustules of animality that YOU are. Contention of this fact implies enormous ignorance.

Nice try though.

JO
JO

Honey, you are sooooo naive!  Wake up and smell the coffee!  You can't possibly be living in any kind of a real world!  We can't control other people and choices they make.  It sounds like you have a lack of self respect for even yourself. 

Angry and bitter  and hates America and those who defend her ... Lib I'm guessin'

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

Yep, I've converted from a flag-waving robot moron to a thinking Lib. You finally got something right, Jo.

KennyPowersII
KennyPowersII

It's just West being West. The moron who respects no one, including his Commander in Chief. Effing hypocrite. He poses a real dilemma. Listening to him make these outrageous statements that will lead to his undoing and knowing that this will bring him down, or having to listen to him until it happens. Sometimes we have to exercise patience, knowing that the result will be worth the wait.

Jo
Jo

We have a Commander in Chief?

KennyPowersII
KennyPowersII

Let me help you out here.

"According to Article II, Section 2, Clause I of the Constitution, the President of the United States is commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces.[12] The current commander-in-chief of the United States Armed Forces is Barack Obama, the 43rd different person to hold the position?

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

You're a dumb ass.

JO
JO

Perfectly eloquent.

Condoms
Condoms

Guess who will be looking for a new job soon

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

Did you see that AW said he wouldn't turn down the VP job. How pathetic. Sucking for a job already.

GuntherZorn
GuntherZorn

I hear Fox is trolling for new talent.

JoeMamma
JoeMamma

Well, he's right.... How soon we forget the TV broadcast of Beheading of the captured.

there should be some penalty for the marines.  its not right.

but the enemy does a lot worse.  -take women's rights.. did anyone see the 60minutes story on baby brides?  where the farmers are loaned money to grow poppies, and take the little girls as brides when the family can't pay back the loan.

 

Jo
Jo

Maybe a slap on the hand .... if that.  It was videotaped ... that's the only big deal.

Agree w/you re: all the other things they are doing violating womens' rights.

We all greatly benefit from the sacrifice of every person in the military.

What's the contribution of the whiners on this site?  You want to express your ideas, thoughts, disgust ... but you'll let someone else do the dirty work for you. 

nanook5
nanook5

nobody has benefited from the sacrifice of every person in the military except for the people that profited financially from them. the millions that have died in the war on terror haven't done a thing to make us safer. no one's doing the real dirty work we need done; prosecuting the vast majority of our military apparatus for crimes against humanity.

JO
JO

You're an idiot too.  Where were you guys hatched from?

nanook5
nanook5

you barely seem like you're convincing yourself. Just accept that people are animals and nationalism is just a way to justify individual atrocity.

Jay Tersty
Jay Tersty

Any one in the military who complains about their job should check their shit at the door, which is it? Are you pussies who can't handle the pressure or you were trained poorly? I would believe either at this point...also, isnt this a voluntary military with real guns and real wars? You should know this before signing up....pst Police, remember this too. YOU SIGNED UP. 

Jay Tersty
Jay Tersty

There you have it. Marines, remember, if you shoot at someone and kill them, one of their friends will kill you and pee on you....and it is cool. We will not be upset and no marines are going to take it personal because hey, War is hell and you did not know this when you signed up for it....right?

Randallsray
Randallsray

ACTUALLY ALLEN LIKE YOU SAID [WAR IS HELL] WITH THAT IN MIND I SAY--THEY SHOULD GIVE THOSE MEN A METAL! THEY BEHEAD AND GUT OUR SOLDIERS WITHOUT WORLD OUTRAGE, WITH THE MIDDLE EAST CHEERING! NO REMORSE WAS SHOWN ON THERE PART! FOR THOSE SOLDIERS. INSTEAD THERE WAS CELEBRATION IN THE STREETS! WE NEED TO QUIT BEING SO NICE TO OUR ENEMIES, WHO ARE OUT TO KILL US! AFTER ALL THEY ARE DEAD! I PERSONALLY THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE BARBARIC IN ORDER TO FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE! I WAS A SUB-CONTRACTOR ON BOTH CAMP PENDLETON AND CAMP LE-JEUNE AND THE MARINES ARE VERY UNIQUE BREED OF PEOPLE! I HAVE SEEN THEM DIE JUST IN TRAINING! THEY GIVE THEIR ALL! SO WE SHOULD BE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF THESE HEROES AND NOT CONDEM THEM!  AS I AM SURE NOT 10% OF THE COMMON PUBLIC DON'T HAVE A CLUE OF WHAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN TRAIN FOR! SO LIKE YOU SAID  AND I BACK YOU 1000% IF YOU HAVE NEVER SERVED THEN [SHUT THE HELL UP]! IRREGARDLESS THESE MEN ARE STILL HEROES IN MY EYES!   RANDALL S. RAY AT randallsray@yahoo.com any comments bring them on! yes what they did might be wrong by our standards, but like one of my old bosses once said [  there are exceptions to any rule  ]

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