Mayor Jack Seiler Responds to Sea Turtle Activists Clamoring for His Attention

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Activists protesting the death of baby sea turtles because of Fort Lauderdale's flawed beach lighting know how to get Mayor Jack Seiler's attention: holding signs up against the windows of City Hall during a commission meeting, passing out his private cell phone number, calling him a murderer. 

Ana Campos, organizer of said methods, certainly got his attention recently -- but not in a positive way. Last week, we published a few short, snippy email replies he sent to her and other activists. Now Seiler tells the Pulp that he's dismissing the activists for a couple of reasons. One, he thinks they just want attention for themselves. Two, he says, it's not the mayor or commission's job to enforce lighting regulations.

"This is more about Ana than it is about turtles," says Seiler. "She
never reached out to me before this." He says that Campos and other activists started attacking his name before they tried to speak rationally with him -- and that Campos' request for him to come meet her on the beach and watch the turtle recovery efforts is "not about the turtles. It's about her." 

Seiler adds that he gets plenty of time on the beach, often riding his bike there at 5:30 in the morning. That attitude toward Campos could explain why the mayor sent her an email, saying, "Before we ever communicated about the turtles, you began writing, stating, and spreading false, misleading and inaccurate information about the City of Fort Lauderdale, our City Commission, and our City Manager... Quite simply, you attacked without even knowing who your friends or enemies are or were.  Now, with your reckless approach, you have definitely lost credibility with me."
       
On the broader issue, he says, "we don't enforce the code. As a mayor and commission, we set policy. The implementation is done by the city manager." He claims that the code enforcement "staff has cited so many problems, you wouldn't believe the complaints we're getting from the other side."

Yes, but wouldn't it be good P.R. for the mayor to at least act like he's concerned, maybe utter a few platitudes or visit the beach and pick up some lost baby turtles, when the activists approach him? 

"This isn't about P.R.," he says, repeating, "This is about Ana Campos and eight other people." (That's the number he counted at last week's protest.) "People know my history. It's right there on paper. How much time do I spend, as mayor, telling people the same things I've told them?" When asked for comment on the issue Friday, Seiler responded with a phone call as well as a lengthy email outlining his positions, which we're including here at the end of the post. 

Seiler says that while we have to "invest a lot of time, money, and effort" in long-term turtle protections, the loss of turtles who cross the road can't be treated with the same weight as the loss of human life. Still, he digressed into a tale about his childhood: "I have four pets in my house, and my dad was a veterinarian. I grew up taking care of animals.

"The thing that concerns me the most," says the mayor, "is that this is an extremely worthy cause. The other night when I came home, my wife asked me if I was worried about the protesters. I said, 'Honey, I think this is wonderful. They have the right to protest. I just don't like it when they turn it into a dishonest debate.'" He adds, "Nobody is saying, 'The heck with the sea turtles.'"

Here's the rundown, straight from the alleged turtle-killer mayor's mouth:

Stefan:

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to express my thoughts about sea turtles on Fort Lauderdale Beach.  The City of Fort Lauderdale cares deeply about the survival of the endangered sea turtles, and we are -- and have been -- working with local and state officials to ensure the safety and protection of sea turtles nesting on our beaches.
 
For example, following the recent inclement weather caused by Hurricane Irene, the City suspended beach cleaning operations on two separate days to allow our staff to examine, monitor, and repair damaged turtle nests.  Approximately 70 nests were successfully re-established and/or repaired along the stretch of public beach from Fort Lauderdale Beach Park north to Oakland Park Boulevard.
 
Also, by working in partnership with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC), the City of Fort Lauderdale has made significant progress toward decreasing the amount of light on the beach to protect the sea turtles and minimize disorientations.

Currently, more than 100 city-owned, turtle-compliant light poles located along the east side of A1A are retrofitted with specially designed covers that have been approved by the FWC to block light from shining directly on the beach.
 
The City is also making a $2 million investment in the beach to enhance the safety and protection of sea turtles by further limiting the amount of artificial light.  Our engineers have designed a prototype turtle-compliant light fixture that will be used to replace all acorn-style lights along the east and west sides of A1A.  These FWC approved, turtle compliant light fixtures will illuminate the sidewalk and roadway without shining any light on the sand.  The project is being funded through a grant from the Florida Department of Transportation and we expect all the new lights to be installed within the next six months.  You may be interested to know that these turtle compliant light fixtures, which we designed, have also been approved by the FWC for use in the cities of Riviera Beach and Delray Beach.
 
In addition to limiting lighting, the City assigns Code officers to the beach to specifically monitor light emanating from properties and ensure businesses are complying with lighting regulations.  Our proactive code enforcement efforts have resulted in opening 172 cases on beach lighting violations.  Of these, 49 properties have already complied; 76 are actively working with staff to reduce lighting; and, 47 have received a Notice of Violation.
 
Properties continue to work with the City to reduce lighting visible from the beach by turning off lights completely, shielding bulbs, discontinuing the use of wall mounted light fixtures, deactivating security lights, retrofitting fixtures with turtle compliant bulbs, discontinuing the use of decorative lighting, and limiting outdoor lighting. 
 
Part of our success in this effort depends on the public.  If someone sees any beach lighting violations, we encourage them to report the violation by contacting our Code Enforcement Office at 954-828-4989.
 
The City of Fort Lauderdale recognizes and appreciates that this is both a serious and complicated issue.  We are working diligently to achieve a balance between the safety and protection of the sea turtles and the safety and protection of our pedestrians, joggers, bicyclists, motorists, residents, visitors and businesses, all of whom need to coexist cooperatively on the beach each and every day of the year.
 
By working together, we are confident that we can effectively address the concerns that have been raised and formulate a solution that is acceptable to the diverse stakeholders involved in this issue.
 
Again, thank you for giving me this opportunity to respond, and I hope this clarifies the City's position on this important issue.
 
John P. "Jack" Seiler
Mayor


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Wendyfsu
Wendyfsu

I'm sure the mayor is very busy. I think that if he gave this issue just a small amount of time all parties needs could be satisfied. The bottom line is that turtles are dying and he could help save their lives. Please mister mayor could u address this issue and save the lives of some of Gods cutest little creatures? Lets all take the gloves off and do the next right thing.

Ana Campos
Ana Campos

The Government has a responsibility to enforce their own ordinance. These are federally protected animals that are becoming roadkill every night and that's the way it's been for years. We have an apathetic City Government, and Code Enforcement employees that are incompetent. Both have been putting up blockades for years, long before I got involved last year. Whether Mayor Seiler, Lee Feldman or Michael Maloney like it or not there is a united force of volunteers and activists that have come together as concerned residents/co-leaders to move this cause forward. OUr action based group is separate from all other groups and we have had amazing, positive conversations, we educate and communicate well, we contact our politicians and maybe will create a petition or another call for another demonstration thrown in for good measure. We are all working towards the same goal and supporting each other. This is all part of why I love America. It's a privilege.The bottom line is those turtles are still dying every day. In the meantime maybe you should watch the video below if you haven't yet. VIDEO of dead turtles and Primanti Brothers:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Here's my brief timeline from the past four months. There's more too. Email from Code Enforcement to Mayor Seiler dated May 3,2011.It clearly shows the Mayor was advised by Code Enforcement they are choosing educating over enforcing their own ordinance.https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...

On May 3, 2011:Code Enforcement sent a letter to Mayor Seiler stating they prefer to 'educate' rather than enforce and fine.

On July 25, 2011:At the Fort Lauderdale Sustainability Board meeting with Code Enforcement that I attended, I watched the Board agree the City wasn't doing enough, or fining enough and 'educating for eight years' wasn't working. They asked Code Enforcement to send a letter out to all beachfront properties. After the meeting it was drafted and Michael Maloney of Code Enforcement, who said "I'm responsible for this decision to educate." said no the letter will not be sent.

On July 27, 2011:I contacted Mayor Seiler for the first time. 

On August 23, 2011:As a regular citizen, I spoke to Mayor Seiler and Lee Feldman at the Commission Meeting about the urgency of helping. http://youtu.be/SjeQqJEOGD0

Richard WhiteCloud of (STOP) also addressed the Commission.http://youtu.be/PVz9zC98nCM

End of August:Code Enforcement gives Primanti Brothers a turtle lighting certificate telling them they are up to code (as usual) and lights are in compliance.

On September 6, 2011:27 federally protected animals cross A1A towards Primanti Brothers lights and are killed.... 

VIDEO of dead turtles and Primanti Brothers:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Ana Campos
Ana Campos

LOL. No one has attacked anyone. The only negativity and personal problems around are coming from you Amy, Marni, Anne until you switch your username againl. I stick with facts and I see none cited in your post. The bottom line is your attempts at redirecting this towards me fail. Once again let me remind you, it's not about me. The Government has a responsibility to enforce their own ordinance. These are federally protected animals that are becoming roadkill every night and that's the way it's been for years. We have an apathetic City Government, and Code Enforcement employees that are incompetent. Both have been putting up blockades for years, long before I got involved last year. 

Whether Mayor Seiler, Lee Feldman or Michael Maloney like it or not there is a united force of volunteers and activists that have come together as concerned residents/co-leaders to move this cause forward. OUr action based group is separate from all other groups and we have had amazing, positive conversations, we educate and communicate well, we contact our politicians and maybe will create a petition or another call for another demonstration thrown in for good measure. We are all working towards the same goal and supporting each other. This is all part of why I love America. It's a privilege..

The bottom line is those turtles are still dying every day. I hope that you focus on the turtles instead of trying to revive this old article with your spin. I know you know my phone number. You are on my facebook and you have my email. Feel free to contact me, like you have before. I'm open to the conversation.In the meantime maybe you should watch the video below if you haven't yet. 

VIDEO of dead turtles and Primanti Brothers:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Here's my brief timeline from the past four months.

There's more too. 

Email from Code Enforcement to Mayor Seiler dated May 3,2011.It clearly shows the Mayor was advised by Code Enforcement they are choosing educating over enforcing their own ordinance.https://docs.google.com/viewer...

On May 3, 2011:Code Enforcement sent a letter to Mayor Seiler stating they prefer to 'educate' rather than enforce and fine.

On July 25, 2011:At the Fort Lauderdale Sustainability Board meeting with Code Enforcement that I attended, I watched the Board agree the City wasn't doing enough, or fining enough and 'educating for eight years' wasn't working. They asked Code Enforcement to send a letter out to all beachfront properties. After the meeting it was drafted and Michael Maloney of Code Enforcement, who said "I'm responsible for this decision to educate." said no the letter will not be sent.

On July 27, 2011:I contacted Mayor Seiler for the first time. 

On August 23, 2011:As a regular citizen, I spoke to Mayor Seiler and Lee Feldman at the Commission Meeting about the urgency of helping.http://youtu.be/SjeQqJEOGD0

Richard WhiteCloud of (STOP) also addressed the Commission.http://youtu.be/PVz9zC98nCM

End of August:Code Enforcement gives Primanti Brothers a turtle lighting certificate telling them they are up to code (as usual) and lights are in compliance.

On September 6, 2011:27 federally protected animals cross A1A towards Primanti Brothers lights and are killed.... 

VIDEO of dead turtles and Primanti Brothers:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

agent provocateur
agent provocateur

The issue Jack has is not with the turtles, it is with Ana's tactics of personal harassment and blatant self promotion for the short 3 weeks she has been with this cause (it only seems like an eternity.) Look at her posts. She could not fit another "Me" or "I" in any of them if she tried. And to also claim to be a "Peace Alliance Board Member" is shameless! The cause is the turtles, not Ana and the turtles. It has turned into a circus and a distraction for all. Jack has been in office 2 years? (one and a half turtle seasons) Feldman has been manager 2 months? Ana fighting for turtles 3 weeks? How effective can they be in that amount of time really? 

Yes. The city HAS been inexcusably slow to react. They HAVE been criminally negligent. People SHOULD be in jail for felony crimes as we speak. But I also happen to know they also "WERE" talking and meeting with STOP who has spent many thousands of hours on the beach to bring the truth to the public with unprecedented data and documentation. Yet they somehow managed to do this WITHOUT Ana, WITHOUT negativity, WITHOUT attacks on business owners, WITHOUT gutter attacks on officials, WITHOUT harassment and WITHOUT grandstanding or personal promotion. Her wild claims of refusing to meet with her are untrue and why would he? What does she know about the gritty details of issue?  Jack SQUAT. Now the door that was opened has now been slammed shut. For that she can take the credit and can etch it on her shrine.

If she personally nuked Japan for whaling based on what she saw on TV, would it reflect on Green Peace, having never been on a ship herself? Poorly or positively? Depends who you ask. The goal is to create public awareness and end the problem. The goal is to get citizens involved so they speak up. But even with good intentions, anyone can get angry and do stupid things in the heat of passion that can quickly turn public opinion against the most noble of causes. It is what it is and cannot be stopped. But it sickens me to see personal grandstanding antics get in the way of a great cause and discredit so many who have spent years working on it legitimately. I think she is working for the other side. If I wanted to bust up a movement, derail its momentum, scare off supporters and volunteers with negativity, she is the first person I would call.  agent provocateur?

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SoFlaAttny
SoFlaAttny

Stefan-First, the letter that the "mayor" wrote you is a cut and paste job- and a generic copy that he sends to everyone that has ever emailed him about this issue.  Second, Jack's attack on Ana Campos appears to be an obvious attempt to avoid any of the issues and turn this into an emotional personal attack on someone who is doing nothing but reaching out and trying to resolve a situation that should be so easily resolved, if the City and the Mayor did their jobs.  She puts pressure on them? Fine, that's what a great activist does.  She is relentless? The job couldn't get done any other way. I have watched her help Fort Lauderdale's homeless community, find out of work Veterans a home and a job and medical care, I have witnessed her champion the rights of abused women, and constantly post messages about missing children.  I am leaving out heaps and bounds of the great things that this woman has done.   The point though, is not about Ana.  Let's not turn this into a situation where the issue becomes about the people involved.  Bottom line there are ordinances and federal laws that are deliberately not being enforced by the City of FTL.  Jack is whining and bitching about the voters who expect him to DO his job.  Frankly, I have never witnessed such a whiny pansy response from a politician when he is simply being asked to do his job.  Is he not aware that we are constituents?  That when he makes an attack on a community activist that is loved by many and is just trying to voice her concern that these turtles are dying, needlessly, in vain, when they are endangered, that he will suffer consequences in the next election?  I am just a South Florida resident. Not an activist.  I work as an attorney. I know that the City is evading it 's obligations to obey these federal and City regulations. I also know that Jack's attitude about this is downright despicable.  He is an elected official. Show some respect for the people who come to you with legitimate concerns.  Show some respect to the people who care about something other than themselves. In this day and age, that's rare. Don't you think?  

RAYMOM
RAYMOM

I think the article against Ana is a personal attack that is a thinly veiled attempt to do nothing about the issue at hand, saving endangered sea turtles. I am disgusted. Whoever thought that in this day and age people would have to fight for compassion and the right to save lives. This is despicable and says a lot about the politicians in office. If they're not willing to step up and do the right thing in compliance with their own laws, they should be voted out of office!

Spiderhill
Spiderhill

The bottom line is that endangered baby turtles are dying. There are federal regulations and a local ordinance that need to be followed. If Mayor Seiler is more concerned with making juvenile personal attacks than actually working with the people who are volunteering day and night trying to save these creatures, then perhaps there is someone else who would actually like to DO THE JOB he was elected to do. Many thanks to the folks at Primanti Brothers for being willing to do what it takes to actually help save these turtles, even though they were told by the city that they were in compliance. And, again, gratitude and kudos to all the wonderful volunteers and activists who are working tirelessly to save these baby turtles  and speak out for these creatures who can't speak for themselves...

Trish Sheldon
Trish Sheldon

Is it me?  Or are we really forgetting about what is important here? This is about the baby Sea Turtles that get killed in the road following the lights, thinking that these lights are the moon/water because the lighting codes are not enforced.  Mayor Seiler, apparently, would rather use this time to try to belittle others rather than fix the issue. Which, may seriously, take a phone call to fix. Mayor, Stop attacking people that are actually saving the lives of thousands of sea turtles a year and stop blaming others for your lack of inaction.

Jennyjones
Jennyjones

It does not take a rocket scientist or turtle specialist to figure out that the A1A is lit up like Las Vegas.  As a native Floridian and Fort Lauderdale resident of over 30 years, I am really disappointed with this Mayor.  There was/is a huge opportunity for him to be a really good guy here and save these turtles with what seems to be a relatively easy fix.  Instead he's acting like an egomaniac!

Sharon Kaufman Athanasiou
Sharon Kaufman Athanasiou

It's all about Ana? Really? Sound to me like Ana simply hit a nerve....perhaps a guilty nerve.....for him to make such a statement. I guess all activists are all about themselves, then?

I'd love to know if the Mayor ever actually stood up for something he personally believed in? My guess is no.

If he truly thought it was a worthwhile cause, he'd do something about it instead of point fingers.

Maria Rotunda
Maria Rotunda

There are less than a handful of elected officials down here worthy of holding their office. watching the video of Ms. Campos addressing the city council you can see Mayor Seiler could care less. Thanks for the laugh- Mrs Seiler- as if the mayor has some safety concerns about a bunch of baby turtle lovers. Now that this issue is getting some press coverage, he's just trying to cover his backside. At least that exposure must be working.

Valerie Goodfellow
Valerie Goodfellow

Mayor Seiler,STOP has asked you at the last 2 city council meetings to come to the beach with us so you can see what is happening for yourself we reach out to you and your board because you oversee Mr. Feldman and his team who are not doing their job.Could you also give us the correct facts on the number of citations? At the last city council meeting in August when Richard Whitecloud spoke we were told only 3 people had not come in to compliance and we were not working too yet here in this article you state 47 have received notices of violation so which is it and do you plan to fine them?I also hate to say it Mr. Seiler but blaming Ms. Campos or calling her fame seeking is just simply childish plenty of famous people use their influence to support their causes so why is one (non-famous) woman being singled out for supporting hers?

Mario
Mario

This is about the baby sea turtles, not about the people trying to protect them. I don't think trying to protect them is wrong or is being done so in any selfish manner. I thank Primanti Bros for caring and trying to help. Hope the other businesses in the area will do the same. 

Geragi Jeff
Geragi Jeff

We fuly support Ana Campos and her struggle to enforce a code that for 8 years has gone unattended.

Kelly J. Conner
Kelly J. Conner

The east side of A1A has lights that do not shine on the sand.  That is correct.  Unfortunately, the FDOT lights on the west side of A1A are way too bright.  There are lights coming from a couple of the hotels along the beach that are very bright and I have personally witnessed 100% disorientation in front of them.  Primanti Bros lights were incredibly bright and there was a 100% disorientation event in front of their store that caused the death of 30 sea turtles.  Primanti Bros recently went through their turtle inspection and was told by code enforcement that they were up to code.  When an advocate for the turtles approached the store and advised the owner that his lighting was not in compliance as it could be seen from the beach, he was appalled and immediately began working with STOP to change the lighting in his business.  KUDOS TO ERIC KOSLOSKI, owner of Primanti Bros for stepping up to the plate and accepting responsibility for his business and our environment.  How many other businesses have passed their turtle safety inspections and believe they are in compliance when they are not?  How often is code enforcement out at night to actually observe the hotel and business lighting?  What about the lights on the side streets?  Some of those lights on the side streets are very bright and cause disorientation, so though they are not on A1A, they are causing the deaths of countless sea turtles.  Mayor Seiler can say that the activists have lost their credibility with him because of their approach.  Unfortunately, people will react with a stronger approach with politicians when they feel that they are not being heard.  It would appear that Mayor Seiler first lost credibility with the advocates and that is probably the reason for the demonstration at City Hall and people using his personal cell phone number.  Only 1 in 10,000 sea turtles survives to adulthood and Ft. Lauderdale is the second most important loggerhead nesting habitat in the world.  Every single sea turtle hatchling counts and we as a community must do all that we can to correct as many obstacles in the way of their survival that we can.  This is not about Mayor Seiler or Ana Campos.  This is about doing the right thing and preserving an endangered species so that species can hopefully thrive and help to reverse at least a little bit of the damage that we have caused to our worlds oceans.  When a person runs for political office, they accept responsibility for what happens in their district and they must also accept that they may become a target for redress when they do not take the appropriate actions warranted by morality.  It is not unreasonable to request that Mayor Seiler, or any member of the City commission spend a night or two working with volunteers and observing hatchling disorientation and asking that code enforcement come out at night and work with businesses to correct lighting issues.  As far as people being mugged, I have been out on Ft. Lauderdale beach many nights and have never seen an officer patrolling the beach side making sure the volunteers and tourists were safe.  I did however forget to use my parking permit and had a ticket on my car within 10 minutes of my parking meter running out and I've seen a lot of patrolling of side streets.  I'd say those officers are working very hard to make sure the city remains safe from people that violate parking laws.  Peace out.

turtleGuy
turtleGuy

there's a better light on this...  guess you can't believe everything  Ana says

PaulS
PaulS

Not only does Seiler's response exhibit his disregard for the lives of the baby sea turtles, but it also shows him committing an elementary logical fallacy called the ad hominem attack. Instead of dealing with the argument of his opponents- namely, there exists  illegal lighting in the city and this results in the cruel deaths of baby sea turtles- he attacks the character of the turtle advocates. On top of that, he doesn't offer any evidence for his ludicrous claims about those advocates. How could he know whether or not each individual person cares more about attention rather than the lives of these precious animals? Did he ask everyone? Of course not. Instead, it's just a sleazy sophistic trick to confuse this very clear issue. Baby sea turtles are being crushed to death on A1A. Do something about it, Jack!

nanook5
nanook5

does seiler have the same press secretary as buddy dyer in orlando? it's the same shit - "it's not that there's anything bad happening or that i'm responsible, it's just some crazy people looking for attention."

shoving some dead turtles under his nose is looking more and more appealing.

Stacyscho28
Stacyscho28

This just proves he's a liar & doesn't care about his city or the cares of his residents. Maybe it is time to have a documentary done about the issue & then when everyone can see him for the man he truly is he will put forth the effort to fix the problems now. They've done it with sharks, whales & dolphins so why not with the turtles? The turtles are more endangered than the others combined.

ALLHAIL ANA CAMPOS
ALLHAIL ANA CAMPOS

All that comes from Ms. Campos mouth is "ME ME ME ME I  I  I  I"  It is quite a sad spectacle for such a worthy cause. Perhaps if someone just erected a monument in her name she would go away and show some respect to the volunteers who spend countless hours on the beach and don't want to be associated with her nonsense and negativity?  Just sayin...

Ana Campos
Ana Campos

"She never reached out to me before this." He says that Campos and other activists started attacking his name before they tried to speak rationally with him -- and that Campos' request for him to come meet her on the beach and watch the turtle recovery efforts is "not about the turtles. It's about her."

The facts are as a regular citizen, I contacted the Mayor by email three times in July kindly asking him for help and he dismissed me. I will post the complete pleasant and professional email exchange I had with him asking him to meet with the residents or groups or anyone and just observe the problem firsthand. It's not personal. He's just being asked to do his job and help correct it. Since 2009 residents have begged him to step up to the plate and help Fort Lauderdale completely enforce their own lighting ordinance and save the lives of a federally protected animal that is becoming roadkill on A1A Boulevard.

Here is the Channel 10 coverage on the recent massacre of baby turtles last week.

http://www.local10.com/furryfr...

"Before we ever communicated about the turtles, you began writing, stating, and spreading false, misleading and inaccurate information about the City of Fort Lauderdale, our City Commission, and our City Manager... Quite simply, you attacked without even knowing who your friends or enemies are or were.  Now, with your reckless approach, you have definitely lost credibility with me."

Here is an example of me attacking Mayor Seiler on August 23, 2011:

I spoke to Mayor Seiler and Lee Feldman at the Commission Meeting almost begging them for help and to accept the invitation to come to their own beach and see the problem.

Neither man has accepted.

http://youtu.be/SjeQqJEOGD0

Another citizen also spoke at that meeting http://youtu.be/PVz9zC98nCM

After giving the Mayor and City Manager the benefit of the doubt and then continuing to see the dismissal of Fort Lauderdale residents that were pleading with him for help, I created a Facebook Page calling for a direct action campaign. And it will continue until Fort Lauderdale complys with it's own ordinance and saves this endangered species from a preventable death.

It seems to me Mayor Seiler is willing to let more turtles die just because he doesn't like me.

He really doesn't have to like me. I'm fine with that. It's not about me. It's about a federally protected turtle.

They are still dying and and that's the problem.

Quan1
Quan1

Glad to see a public response to the Mayor. The official chronology of events contradicts the Mayor's account. Nevertheless, as he stated, this is not about him, Anna or how many people he counted. His demonizing them will simply cast a shadow of negativity on his lack of action, forthrightness and decency. Stop attacking others and just carry out your job. If your wife has to now ask you, may be she would make a better Mayor. It is all about what we each do for those who cannot help themselves. The time for rationalization, justification and finger pointing is simply lost time when you can exercise leadership, Jack. Be a mensch and do your job!

Chaz Stevens, Genius
Chaz Stevens, Genius

Matt;

What about Seiler's Turtle Soup recipe?  Can you get us a copy of that?

PS. What does Jackie know about credibility? It's not often you see his name and the word "credibility" collide in the same sentence.

Zellymarc
Zellymarc

??? Ana is a wonderful person..and she isnt me me me me...?..Anyone that knows her knows its ABOUT the Turtles !! TurtleGuy !!! Wow...do you work for the Mayor..or are you Jackie himself ? And as for what Ana says...she is given stats by the people in charge of citations..so if they are wrong...all the more reason to question what exactly is going on...and why dont they care enough to have their facts straight !!!

Chaz Stevens, Genius
Chaz Stevens, Genius

Doesn't Jackie's family own a pet cemetery?  Seems to me, professionally speaking, if that is the case then Seiler has lots of experience with killing animals.

Keep in mind, at one time, rumor on the street was that Jack was going to sue me...

Still waiting boss.

BE HERE NOW
BE HERE NOW

It sounds like you have  internal jealousy honestly. What are YOUR intentions? If what you are doing is volunteering and your true intention is saving the turtles, why do you care what she does as long as its not killing more turtles or messing with disorientation data?

TurtleGuy
TurtleGuy

Can you please tell me what it is, you expect ? 

what is the exact problem, and your solution?  it does appear the city is moving in the right direction, but not as fast as you wish? correct?  or?

Zellymarc
Zellymarc

Retraction....AllHail Ana Campos..is the one that said me me me

FreudianProjection
FreudianProjection

Keep this in mind, whackjob.  Seiler ran you out of his office building  parking lot cause you are a loose cannon, stalking psycho.  That's not the same as suing.  Why would anyone waste time and money suing a silly POS like you?

   

A. Right
A. Right

If by "jealousy" you mean "shame"... Then perhaps.  Tell that to Muslims on a plane with everyone looking at them because of their radical brethren. 9/11 terrorists may have gotten their point across and moved on to the next life, but at what cost to the rest who are still here? The egoic mind strikes again. Ms. "Peace Alliance Board Member" should go through retraining perhaps.

A. RightBoard Member of the Always Right Alliance

nanook5
nanook5

so to date: the turtles are dying. the city shows a willful disregard. people start getting pissed. the mayor then shows a level of obtuseness towards a black and white situation usually reserved for the mentally handicapped. people get angrier. and then turtle guy shows up and actually agrees that it makes perfect sense to not be able to understand this situation in the slightest and rush to the defense of the city regardless.

no turtle guy. the city is TELLING BUSINESSES THEIR LIGHTS ARE FINE WHILE THEY ARE ACTUALLY KILLING TURTLES. they're only moving in the right direction in the sense that they're headed off a political cliff towards their richly deserved reward.

Chaz Stevens, Genius
Chaz Stevens, Genius

Hahhaahah

Let me say this. You seem to know a lot about me.   I care to know nothing about you. Who finds who interesting?

nanook5
nanook5

and there we have it...animal advocacy=mass suicide bombing. thanks for that.

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