Allen West on Gay Soldiers: "People Can Change Their Behavior, but I Can't Change My Color"

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Well, it didn't take too long for Rep. Allen West to make a statement that people are seeing as more outlandish than his last one.

West was asked by an audience member at a speech Saturday night about openly gay people serving in the United States military, according to the Tampa Tribune.

His response: It's too late, but gays are going to "break down the military."

"When you take the military and you tell it they must conform to the individual's behavior, then it's just a matter of time until you break down the military," he said.

But what about racial integration into the military? Would West have said the same thing?

There's no comparison there, West says.

"Let me explain something to you," West said. "I can't change my color. People can change their behavior, but I can't change my color."

Apparently "pray the gay away" is catching on, although this isn't a new stance from West.

On the other hand, if West is sure that people can change their behavior, there are certainly a few Democrats who would like him to do so.

Patrick Murphy, the hopeful Democratic challenger to West next year, is one of those people.

Murphy says Saturday's comments are just one in a long line of West's statements demonstrating his "irrational fear of the gay and lesbian community."

Further, Murphy says West's comment of allowing gays will "break down the military" is "simply not befitting a congressman, never mind a veteran of the military."

"It is hate speech, pure and simple -- and not the kind that voters should tolerate from an elected leader who is clearly showing he lacks the control to lead," Murphy says.


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Jeffrey Alman
Jeffrey Alman

if people can change their behavior, then perhaps he can change from a bigoted entitled uppity republican to a more empathetic considerate human being that can identify with the gay issues just like the blacks did in the 50s - what an asshole

Tailapanker2
Tailapanker2

Yet scott has florida gaining more private sector jobs every month than 85 percent of the country.  The solution to the economic crisis is private jobs. I am a republican who will rebuke what West has said, IF it is true he even sail it as reported, but Scott is by no means part of the problem.

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

I'm convinced West is trying to enter the Guinness Book of World Records.

"Most consecutive ignorant statements".

P.S. Did Uncle Tom say that he can't change his color? Honky, say what?

Dr_augusta
Dr_augusta

Poor is the manWhose pleasures dependOn the permission of another

Patti Lynn
Patti Lynn

Good article, Matt....lots of participation

Model Citizen
Model Citizen

And he calls Debbie Wasserman Schulz the most vile member of Congress???

Diogenes6670
Diogenes6670

West will, by his own outlandish statements, self-destruct and will therefore be a one-term congressman.  Consider:

According to the Palm Center, a University of California, Santa Barbara-based think tank that studies controversial public policy issues:-- Twenty-five countries allowed military service by openly gay people as of June 2009.-- They are: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Uruguay. 

Check it out:  http://www.laindependent.com/n...

Mr. West, what have you got to say to this?

Chaz Stevens, Genius
Chaz Stevens, Genius

It seems Anders Behring Breivik longed for a "pure" and ultra conservative religion. He was a man of religious conviction, no liberals with their jeans need apply! Liberals beware.

Sound familiar? Timothy McVeigh: Registered Republican, killed 168. Before his execution, McVeigh took the Catholic sacrament of the Anointing of the Sick.

The terror unleashed on Norway - and the terror now unleashed by the Tea Party through Congress as it holds our economy hostage to extremist "economic" theories that want to destroy our ability to function -- is the sort of white, Christian; far right terror America can expect more of.

***

The Religious Right/Far Right et al. favored private "facts," too.

They claimed that global warming wasn't real. They asserted this because scientists (those same agents of Satan who insisted that evolution was real) were the ones who said human actions were changing the climate. Worse, the government said so, too!

"Global warming is a left-wing plot to take away our freedom!"

"Amtrak must make a profit!"

***

The "Manhattan Declaration" reads:

"We will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act . . . nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family. We will fully and ungrudgingly render to Caesar what is Caesar's. But under no circumstances will we render to Caesar what is God's."

In case you've never heard of George, he's been a one-man "brain trust" for the Religious Right, Glenn Beck, and the Far Right of the Republican Party as well as for the ultraconservative wing of the Roman Catholic Church.

***

To understand the extremism coming from the right, the fact that there are members of Congress who seem to be genuinely mentally unhinged leading the charge on the debt ceiling, you need to understand that this hatred of all things government has theological roots that have nothing to do with facts.

Theology is -- by nature -- not about reason but about faith. If God's will is to be served then so be it if America is plunged into chaos! This debt ceiling fiasco is just another chapter in the "culture" wars.

***

Following the election of our first black president, the "politics" of the Evangelical, Jewish, Roman Catholic, and Mormon Far Right was not the politics of a loyal opposition, but rather the instigation of revolution, which was first and best expressed by Rush Limbaugh when even before President Obama took office he said, "I hope Obama fails."

To the old-fashioned conservative mantra "Big government doesn't work," the newly radicalized Evangelicals (and their Roman Catholic and Mormon cobelligerents) added "The U.S. government is evil!"

And the very same community--Protestant American Evangelicals--who had once been the bedrock supporters of public education, and voted for such moderate and reasonable men as President Dwight Eisenhower, became the enemies of not only the public schools but also of anything in the (nonmilitary) public sphere "run by the government."

***

In a country awash in weapons and wallowing in the rhetoric of rebellion against an "evil" government, sporadic outbursts of murder tinged with political overtones seem as inevitable as they seem horribly "normal."

And the anti-government charge is being led by people who are either true believers, thus unable to reason, or people catering to the true believers so that they can remain in the good books of the Tea Party, which is nothing more than the Evangelical far right repackaged and renamed.

***

The night of December 14, 2008, Bruce Turnidge was in handcuffs and sitting next to an FBI agent in Turnidge's farmhouse in Oregon. He was ranting about the "need" for militias and cursing the election of an African American president. Hours earlier, his son, Joshua, had been arrested for allegedly causing a fatal bomb explosion.

***

It doesn't seem like much of a stretch to foresee a day when a "secessionist" group and/or members of some "militia"--let alone one lone individual--will use their U.S. passports, white skins, and solid- citizen standing as a cover for importing a weapon of mass destruction to "liberate" the rest of us from our federal government's "tyranny" and/or to "punish" some city like New York, known as the U.S. "abortion capital" or San Francisco as the place that "those gays have taken over." And the possibility of an assassination in the same vein is a never-ending threat.

What we fear most from Islamist terrorists will be unleashed here as it was in Norway.

Terror is on the way on the way from our very own Christian and/or Libertarian "Tea Party" type activists inspired by right wing "Christian" intellectuals and political leaders like Bachmann who - after the killing starts -- will then disown them and express horror at their actions, actions that are in fact the logical extension of the anti-government rhetoric spewing from Congress and the religious right.

euroman1212
euroman1212

Ellen West looks gay to me.....quite femalish. What did he EVER  do while on active duty???The same guy/girl that stated his/her TOP SECRET CLEARANCE was higher then the Presidents.........he is SO full of it.He hates being BLACK(tried coloring his hair blond) but used his color to advance his career....disgusting American.

Lifelong Dem
Lifelong Dem

While all of you West opponents were getting overly agitated by the brainless hot air this powerless freshman emits several times a day, our so-called governor in Tallahassee took the entire $55 million budget for maintenance and repair of the state's public schools and gave it ALL to private charter schools -- probably schools owned by his corporate contributors. I consider that an impeachable offense. Never, ever vote for any Republican for any reason. EVER!

KennyPowersII
KennyPowersII

There are no gays in the Tea Party,...... right? I so wish the Army had gone forward with the court martial. Is it possible for them to have a do over? For a man, who was "retired", involuntarily, from service, he surely has quite a bit to say about that institution. Comes off as a very bitter individual who did not deserve the rank he attained. Guessing he never took that Humility 101 course.

PHARO88
PHARO88

THESE EVIL RETHUGS R INSANE..ALLANA WEST IS A BRAINFART THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLODED INTO SPACE AND BURN UP INTO THE SUN. HE'S A NO GOOD HATEFILLED IDIOT  THAT'S  THE FACTS..IT IS WHAT IT IS.

nanook5
nanook5

no baggers rushing to his defense? maybe they really are all in the closet..

Nancishouse
Nancishouse

We have West, Buchanan, Mica and Scott that are embarrassments to Florida

SMDrPepper
SMDrPepper

At this point, West and his tea baggers just keep opening their mouths just to insert foot.  Do they EVER think before ranting?  Even just a little bit?Actually heard one on the radio saying that taxes are not revenue.  Just hurts my head sometimes.

Nnauer
Nnauer

Is West implying that he WOULD change his color if he could?  Wonder how his mother feels about that?  Wonder if he is aware that many other countries have had gay members of their military for years and have not broken down?  What an idiot!!!!

chris
chris

Allen West is a disgrace to the State of Florida, the US House of Representatives, the US military, and basically all people. He has no idea what he is talking about. Fuck him.

Marku
Marku

Holding back, as kind as I can be, I have to say that West is a meat head.

First Hand
First Hand

Americans for Tax Reform evacuated after bomb threatRead more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07...I just love the Open Minded Left Wingers - They are just so tolerant of opposing points of view. (sarcasm) 

SMDrPepper
SMDrPepper

Wait a minute, last I checked, Scott has LOST more jobs then in any other state.  Has not gained a single job at all.  Hence the reason Florida has the highest unemployment rate.  WOW tea baggers are delusional..

MarleneB
MarleneB

More like the bloated mass that's their pastor.

Lyonside
Lyonside

 That list always amuses me for one reason: Go ahead and tell those armies, especially Australia and UK units in Afghanistan, or Israel's, say, that they are somehow weakened and less ready for action. I'll wait safely over here in this corner with the bandages and the ice packs and cell phone with 911 on speed-dial, and try not to say, I told you so.

Patti Lynn
Patti Lynn

Let's not forget that most of those countries also have single payer universal health care...and Scott has turned down how many millions to keep FloriDUH out of it????

Tailspanker2
Tailspanker2

where the hell did you come up with this steaming pile of none sense of a lie.

Dr_augusta
Dr_augusta

never took Humanity 101 either...

MarleneB
MarleneB

Um, my considered opinion is that the teabaggers aren't *allowed* to think, dear! It not only makes their head hurt, but it causes them to question, and that's *exactly* what ALEC and the Koch Brothers do NOT want to happen!

Patti Lynn
Patti Lynn

I believe that they open their mouths and CHANGE feet....there's always one stuck in there.

MarleneB
MarleneB

Uncle Toms like West totally refuses to recognize the fact that if it wasn't for a gay Prussian, the Continental Army wouldn't have been given the discipline they needed to defeat the British, and if it wasn't for a gay black man, the bastard would be still living under Jim Crow in Florida!

He also refuses to remember the fact there were untold numbers of people who passed as white or Cuban in order to get around Jim Crow. What are your opinion of them, Allie? What about the whites who were impacted by the blood laws, Congressman and faced Jim Crow too?

Model Citizen
Model Citizen

Of course, the US military has had gay members for it's entire history.  I'd venture to say that the percentage of gays in the military is even larger than the population as a whole for the same reasons that softball teams attract lesbians and boy scout troops attract pedophiles.  Check out a little thing called the US Navy and get back to me.

Patti Lynn
Patti Lynn

Actually, if you look at the governor of Florida, you could probably say the same thing.  I would leave out the Parkland Man type comment though as to both of them.

KennyPowersII
KennyPowersII

So you have a list of potential perps compiled? What is the relevance of your "pet" topic to this one? Please share that list with us.

Chaz Stevens, Genius
Chaz Stevens, Genius

You assume it was a left winger.  When it comes to blowing shit up, it's the far right wing god-powered holy rollers that you have to worry about.

Mark Andrzejczak
Mark Andrzejczak

When the choice is between acting in rational self-interest and acting like a spoiled three year old, the rules of tolerance do not apply; I tolerate others of different races, different ethnicities, different religions, different sexual orientations, different genders, different opinions—I discipline a spoiled three year old. How else will selfishness, small-mindedness, inability to delay gratification, impetuousness, et cetera give way to experience and maturity?

Nnauer
Nnauer

I'd say West's comments are beyond an "opposing point of view" (no sarcasm.. fact).

The Pulp Blog
The Pulp Blog

But if you're thinking about being Michael's baby, it don't matter if you're black or white.

Patti Lynn
Patti Lynn

FloriDUH...No, the state can no longer be embarrassed.

Lyonside
Lyonside

Wow. What a horrible lack of respect you have for the many servicemen and servicewomen who are currently serving with GLBT soldiers and sailors, and who have NO PROBLEMS WITH THEM AT ALL. Or the quietly-out servicepeople who are also important members of their units and are not some hideous stereotype you have in your mind as a placeholder for treating human beings like individual human beings. 10 years ago, my brother, career master sargeant w/ 2 tours of Iraq War II under his belt, married with kids, told me out of the blue that he had at least 1 soldier known to be gay in his unit, and a few more that were suspected, and it did not affect the way they acted or the way he worked with them at all. Mutual respect is the name of the game, and integrity and honor is what will be restored when DADT is fully repealed. Of course, those are things you obviously know nothing about.

Nancishouse
Nancishouse

Hey, Lots of states voted for teabaggers. Scott spent 73m of his own money. Alex Sink spent 30m of grassroots money and only lost by a faction.

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