Gov. Rick Scott Invents A Scientific Study On Drug Use During Nationally Televised Interview

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Now for Gov. Rick Scott's charade of the day -- making up a scientific study on drug use by welfare recipients on a nationally televised CNN interview.

As you know, the governor signed H.B. 353 into law last week, requires Floridians on welfare to pass a drug test before they get their cash.

On the air with CNN host T.J. Holmes earlier this week, the governor was asked if he had any evidence that a "significant number" of those receiving welfare assistance in Florida were drug users.

The governor's response: "You know, T.J., I don't know."

About a minute-and-a-half later -- after being asked twice more what evidence he has to show that welfare recipients are typically drug users -- he invents at least one scientific study to prove his point.

"Studies show that people on welfare are using drugs much higher than other people in the population," he said.

After that interview, PolitiFact Florida asked the governor's office exactly which studies he was referring to.

The Scott crew handed over one, 11-year-old national survey that found 9.6 percent of people in families that receive some sort of government assistance -- which includes non-cash assistance programs like food stamps and Medicaid -- compared to 6.8 percent of people who receive no government assistance at all.

The ACLU supplied PolitiFact with a very similar study -- it's old, national, and includes other types of cash assistance -- but it found a very different result. Drug use for welfare recipients was between 1.3 and 3.6 percent, compared to 1.5 percent of those non-welfare recipients.

We're guessing the governor's other study he was referring to must have come from the "Rick Scott University of Learning Good" -- because like that university, the other study doesn't exist.

Let's say we give the governor the benefit of the doubt -- 9.6 percent of the 93,170 people on welfare in Florida use drugs, and they won't be receiving their cash assistance. The average monthly check for a welfare recipient is between $100 and $200, but we'll use the latter to maximize the state's savings. Based on 8,944 people failing their drug test, that saves the state $1,788,800.

Then the state has to reimburse the cost of the test to the 84,266 welfare recipients who they believe will pass. Since the drug tests are believed to cost up to $25, that's $2,106,650 they would be paying to the welfare recipients.

That's $317,850 the state believes -- based on their presented research -- they will lose in the first round of drug testing.

But hey, let's talk about fiscal responsibility.


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Pcooks1012
Pcooks1012

I want to know why all of you that are for this are.t aski.g for it across the board. Where is the dipstick for rick scott? Or all of the other federally funded officials. And lets be honest here, most who are for this have no idea what its like to get laid off and no be able to feed your kids. And are they taking foodstamps as a form of payment, because if a person has no cash income, where will they pull this money from? Oh dont buy diapers this week. We have a real economic crisis at hand, and were throwing around bs. What a joke! But I do bet someones getting their student loans right now discussing this over drinks.

tbolo
tbolo

This article should've included the fact that Rick Scott transferred his shares of Solantic, a private urgent care center operating several facilities throughout Florida which just happens to coincidentally provide such a drug test mandated by this law, into his wifes name just before becoming governor. Ricks Scott's wife is currently the primary shareholder of Solantic. So our hard earned taxpayer dollars are actually going right into Mr. Scott's coffers to pay for these drug tests, and now even worse it's at a financial loss to the state, go figure.

Perry Ligterink
Perry Ligterink

Well, I don't make $250k annually, so I am considered welfare..

Cindy
Cindy

What about all thoes jobs Rick Scott promised??....that would get people off welfare and unemployment and let the employer's do the drug testing...Seriously...get the people help, jobs  and rehabilitation.  Don't punish the children and pull the food stamps and welfare.

jimcracky
jimcracky

If they are going to start drug-testing (at their expense) those receiving money from the state, I suggest they start with all state employees, starting with the governor and legislators and working their way down. After all, drug testing is routine in many private sector jobs, let's hold OUR public sector employees accountable, too.  ;-)

Bubba Hitler
Bubba Hitler

All those who fail the drug tests must be executed immediately on the spot. Massive public beheadings of the poor weak dope addict athiest liberals will show that their new Republican Overlords are running the show now, not the Kenyan monkey ape n i g g e r commie muslim in the White House. A pure White Christian Aryan Nation will make God love and bless us again. The next steps are overturning Roe vs Wade, Brown vs Board of Education and the 1964 Civil Rights Voting Act. Heil Jesus and White Power!

Msral
Msral

So Florida is going to spend money on Drug tests....Then if the person fails....They then have to get a executor for their benifits(that executor wont be held for drug testing) that makes sense ha ha ha wow how dumb can people be.....Its just giving more tax dollars to the corporate powers that be.  It will not solve the problem lol It will just cost Florida residents more with no profit to the tax payer.....

UcnU
UcnU

The Fla. Gov.Rick Scott  is a skin head Hitler Nazi.

Guest
Guest

He gets all his political research and development from PolitiFact's  Dork-O-Meter. A local kiddies news game for gopers.

T96p
T96p

Unfortunately there are a lot of children born to parents who won't pass the tests. Then what?Wecome to 3rd world USA: Rick Scott's version of Florida.

KOSOVA
KOSOVA

If their not using then they have nothing to worry about! Why is this such a big deal. All you have to do is take a drug test and you get free money for sitting on your a$$!!

Rmandel
Rmandel

Actually, I think the tests cost $40

Warren
Warren

Drug testing for Governor Scott? The good of our state is foremost in the mind of our elected chief executive, Florida Governor Rick Scott.He worries about us 24 hours a day.Several days ago he signed into law a bill calling for Florida residents receiving benefits from the state to be tested for drugs.That’s the kind of four-square guy Rick Scott is. He is not going to let those kinds of people squander money on drugs, food or that kind of irrelevant and foolish stuff.Test positive and your check is gone. Kaput. On the other hand if you’re drug free you won’t have to pay for the tests. It will be FREE.That’s the kind of guy our governor is.***His hospital company, Columbia HCA, was barely fined $1.7 billion for Medicare and Medicaid fraud so, quite naturally, he signed a bill calling for drug tests for Florida residents receiving state benefits.Of course others were to blame for the fines.Of course.Still, as a ringing declaration of faith that he really is a man of the people it would be wonderful to see him participate in the drug-testing process.He could even use the Governor’s mansion to provide his little cup – although others would check on the validity of his gift.State citizens would knock on the door every thirty seconds to simply speed up the process.As with those who receive state benefits Governor Scott, simply by proving he is drug-free, would continue to receive his salary, expense account and state trooper protection.As somebody once said, “Let’s get to work.” warrenlanger@att.netStill Liberal at 83Still recovering from Open Heart surgeryLong ago radio-gunner TBF Avenger 

Gator
Gator

Scott is a bully who picks on the most helpless people for the amusement of the rubes who support him.   If he really believed in drug-testing for those who receive state aid, he would propose requiring students with state scholarships, such as Bright Futures, to be drug tested.  Of course the probem with that is too many of the students parents have some political resources.

On the other hand, he may think thiswould be a waste of time since he and the GOP legislators are on a course to destroy the education system anyway.

Lynn Demarest
Lynn Demarest

You're forgetting about the people who, clutching to their last ounce of dignity, will refuse to take the tests because they object to having their Constitutional rights violated. Think of the savings all those hungry kids will yield! Let's get to work!   

A B Beachmom
A B Beachmom

Quote on DCF figures for TANF benefits taken from a www.abcactionnews.com article posted 5/5/2011, "Statewide, more than 100,000 residents receive more than $13 million in TANF benefits every month, according to the Florida Department of Children and Families." Oooh, that's a "whopping" $13 each per month on average. Let's see, when they test clean, they get reimbursed the $25 (or more) for the test. That means the state pays them $25 + $13 for the month they are tested. Uh yeah, that's a real cost saving for the state on TANF - NOT! I know, they only get tested when they apply for TANF, but that can actually happen every 6 months in some cases. Which of course means potentially paying out triple the regular payment twice a year for drug free folks (the vast majority) - yeah, that makes total economic sense, right? Lets look at if all 100,000 had to reapply and be tested only once a year (actually many are on a 6 month schedule). Let's say 90% pass, 10% fail (rounding up Scott's drug useage "data"). Cost to reimburse minimum of $25 (could cost more) to 90,000 for the year $2,250,000. Not paying out $13 a month for 12 months to 10,000 people is $1,560,000. Hmmm . . . pay out $2,250,000 to save $1,560,000.  How does this help the our state's economy?

LetsGetToWork
LetsGetToWork

The lab will receive $25 regardless of  the test's outcome.  That is $2.3 million in the hands of the labs, minus whatever costs it takes to process the test.  Who owns/operates the labs?  Bet there is a tie to either the Governor or his "friends" in the medical industry. This nonsense is just another way our corporate owners use tax dollars to get more for themselves at the public's expense.  And by the way, because the  lab will receive tax dollars for each test that is passed, who is making sure the lab employees and owners are getting drug tested so they can receive their share of the tax payers loot.  Let's Get To Work!!!

Deanna Norris
Deanna Norris

Not surprised, however I am still in favor of drug testing as I have had many a job in my life including 8 years service in the Navy that required drug testing, why should Welfare recipients be treated any different?  Also I thought they were going to be required to pay for their own drug test but at the participating lab of their choice?  Something changed now?

Guest
Guest

Tea Party is hate cult.

Jdh352
Jdh352

yeah us white folks have done really well so far huh, racist piece of crap

Bubba Hitler
Bubba Hitler

And thank God for that! The White man is taking this country back from the mud-race traitor parasites!

Bvdbobcat
Bvdbobcat

  I guess you don't know how to read, maybe you should get off your a$$ and learn to comprehend what you read.  .  We have a Governor that says he's for saving the state money.  He then says in order to collect money you must take a drug test and pay for it yourself.  You with me so far??  Ok?  now they pass and the State refunds you the cost of the drug test.  You still following me?  You fail and you don't get any money and you don't get refunded for the test. The governor was asked how many people fail drug testing and he didn't know, asked a 2nd time and he said 9+% which he made up..  But using that figure someone smarter than you and the governor have figured that the cost to refund the 90.x% that don't failure cost more than actually paying everyone without anyone taking a drug test.  You see?  The cost effective governor that ran a huge business, but didn't know that fraud was being done under his nose, now has his finger on the pulse of everything being done in the state is costing the state more with this cockamamie idea.

Msral
Msral

I guess everyone who reads this topic forgets....Even those that fail will not loose their benifits....They will just need someone else to be the executor of their benifits....So in the end the state is spending even more money....They not saving money lol...The benifits will still be paid out...Its really not a solution.

Guest
Guest

I believe they do drug testing in that cushy jail for rich politicians.

Chaz Stevens, Genius
Chaz Stevens, Genius

I am thinking of opening up a business to sell clean urine.   "Golden Showers Inc."

Guest
Guest

People can easily out smart the scam.

Guest
Guest

The feds don't allow governors to violate peoples rights. Testing for dollars won't be around long.

Guest
Guest

the constitution is big on privacy rights, it's an American thing

The Pulp Blog
The Pulp Blog

The cost is reimbursed by the state unless they fail it.

Bubba Hitler
Bubba Hitler

Actually executing the poor is a much better idea. Use them as slaves for forced labor them kill them when they can't work any more.

kevinh
kevinh

Comprehension just whiffed right on by ya, Matthew. LOL

Bvdbobcat
Bvdbobcat

 Rick already has the market covered as well..

Guest
Guest

Wow, the whole costs!

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