Allen West Interview: Florida Tea Party Favorite Talks About Islam and Donald Trump (Part 3)

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Read part one and part two of our Allen West interview.

New Times: You've shown a strong interest in Israel and Israeli politics. My understanding is that you do not favor the two-state solution.

Allen West: You mean creation of a Palestinian state? When has there ever been a Palestinian state?

Well, if you don't favor the two-state solution, do you know that the majority of Israelis do?

Well, I gotta tell you, I talk to a lot of Israelis; they're very concerned about this United Nations unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state, which may come this summer.

The majority of Israelis and Palestinians want peace.[12]

[laughs for the first time in interview] OK, OK, all right, you want peace? The peace that the Fogel family got when they were stabbed to death; to include a 3-month-old-child? [13] Peace means the dismantling of the Islamic terrorist groups that are operating all in and around the Israeli people. Now if all of a sudden, you create this Palestinian state, which has really never been in existence and has never had any currency; if you don't get them to reject some of the violent vitriolic charters that they have, such as with Hamas, all you're doing is creating a terrorist state.

So American Jews favor it, the majority of Israelis favor it...

Well, I don't know who you're talking to.

I'm reading polls in Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper.

There are lies, and then there are damned lies, and then there are statistics.

Your interest in Israel -- where does that come from? Does that just have to do with the fact that you have a lot of Jewish constituents?

No, no, that's part of my heart. That's part of believing in the Judeo-Christian heritage. That's part of growing up, going to church, and reading the great stories of the Bible, the Old Testament, and understanding that there is an inextricable relationship between the Holy Land, the land of Israel, and my Christian faith and also the United States of America.

And you don't worry that siding with the hardliners in Israel would anger Muslims throughout the world? You don't worry that that actually endangers the U.S.?

They already hate us... So you can continue to concede land or make concessions of peace, negotiate, but they still hate you for who you are and that you exist. And they continue to express that sentiment.

You were at a rally [recently] with Donald Trump.

[smiles] Donald Trump was at a rally with me.

If he asked you to be his VP candidate, what would you say?

That's up to God, that's up to the constituents, and that's up to my family. It's not about me.

So you're not ruling it out?

I never rule anything out.

But when Glenn Beck said you should run for president, you said no.

I'm not caught up in the cult of personality. I think the most important thing for me to be focused on is being the best possible congressional representative I can be, to prove myself as a capable legislator and also an American statesman.

So you're not looking at yourself as the next Republican candidate to run against Obama?

Nope.

Trump has been questioning Obama's citizenship status. Do you support that?

I don't care where the president came from. I'm concerned about his policies and where they're taking this country.

What do you think of Sarah Palin?

I don't know, never met her.

This is something that came up at a town hall meeting a few weeks ago. You mentioned that you are offended by Planned Parenthood clinics in black neighborhoods.

I talked to some civic leaders up in Riviera Beach, and if you go and you look at some of the billboards up there, they really are concerned about the decimation that abortion has had on the black community. And I think that it has really taken a toll.

So you are offended by Planned Parenthood being in black neighborhoods because you believe they target black women?

Well, it is known to be the number-one provider of abortions in the United States of America. So I think that's a big concern for me.

And the fact that they provide health care, Pap smears, birth control, testing...

Well, that's fine. They have a $1.1 billion budget. And what I'm talking about is being a good steward of the American taxpayer. Three hundred 52 million dollars, the 33 percent of that budget that comes from the American taxpayer,[14] I think that that could be better used elsewhere.

You've made some comments about the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy in the military, but among your constituents, there are gays and lesbians. You represent Oakland Park, and it's right next to Wilton Manors. Do you feel any duty to stand up for those citizens as well?

I feel a duty to protect the United States of America. And having been in the military for 22 years, I think that anyone who wants to question my ability to assess the armed services would, unless they spent that amount of time, would probably not be a very prudent thing. The military's about one very basic mission. That is winning wars of the United States of America. My concern... is that when you take the United States military, which takes the individual and their behavior and conforms it to the military, that's how you make a cohesive unit. Now, if we're saying we're gonna take the military and conform it to individual behaviors, then I am very concerned about the direction that we're going.

But no one is saying that members of the armed forces are allowed to have relationships with each other. This is just a matter of allowing them to say "Yes, I am gay" or "Yes, I am a lesbian."

But you know something? I served in the military, and I knew that there were gays and lesbians around me, and they really didn't care.

You've served with gays and lesbians, so why couldn't they just be open about it?

Because how it was, was absolutely fine.

Was it fine with them?

Well, you know what? The people that I knew, they did one simple thing: They volunteered to serve their military. And guess what? If that is the rule and it's a voluntary military, if you don't want to conform to that rule, is anyone twisting your arm to join the military? No.

Read part one and part two of the Allen West interview to see what he had to say about Medicare, Lybia, and Islam.



12. Public opinion is a moving target. But according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, a 2010 poll of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza found that 73 percent of respondents favored a peace agreement with Israel. A June 2009 poll, also published in Haaretz, found that 64 percent of Israeli Jews support a two-state solution. In March 2010, a joint poll by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research and the Harry S. Truman Research Institute for the Advancement of Peace at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem found that "the majority of Palestinians and Israelis prefer a two-state solution to the conflict," according to the Jerusalem Post.

13. Ruth and Udi Fogel, along with three of their children, were stabbed to death in their home in March in what the White House has labeled a terrorist attack by a Palestinian man. The Fogels were Israeli settlers living in the West Bank.

14. In 2009, Planned Parenthood had a $1.1 billion budget, of which $363 million came from federal grants. Abortions make up 3 percent of the organization's services. West voted for a proposal to end Planned Parenthood's federal funding in this year's budget, but that proposal was cut from the final congressional budget bill in April.


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June_June
June_June

Re: The filthy Arab-Apartheid propaganda against Israel the victim of Arabs, Muslims who seek to wipe it off.Apartheid they dare say? Israel (where all races, colors, religions are equal) checks Arabs because of their "race"? What a racist lie it is!Now let's talk apartheid. Shall we?Apartheid Arab Palestine is against:1) Christians, are second class citizens at best. Many are forced to act against Israel, some have been physically attacked.2) Jews, are being targeted for being Jews (as the PA sermons show).  By Apartheid-Palestine law, they are not allowed to live under racist Arab rule.3) Ahmadi (moderate Muslims) sect, are declared "apostates", thus stripping them of rights in courts, some have been beaten, etc.4) Blacks grandchildren of slaves by the Bedouins are still stigmatized.

richyoung
richyoung

I have not followed West, but this article does not give me the confidence that he is the type of person I want leading our country for the long term. I feel he is good for "stirring the pot" in his current position in the House.  If he does have further political ambitions, then pairing with Trump for a 2012 run would be a good way to end it for good.  Or perhaps he would look more capable in comparison to Trump and it could boost his credibility.  It would be a big gamble.

@Anon, I saw no logic.

yuval
yuval

I think Allen West scares the media because he does not conform to the basic media tenets. Quoting Haaretz on israeli politics is like quoting the the KKK about black rights. Haaretz is read by three percent of the population in Israel, and is owned by a investor with former nazi connections. It is liked by the media for exactly the reasons the media loathes Allen West: because it wishe to impose its elitist views on the majority, inclusive of creative statistics. Allen West is the most belieavble politician now walking the US.

SMDrPepper
SMDrPepper

Okay this is just sad. In every single one of these stories, the right wing has developed the Pee Wee Herman defense. Or, in other words, saying "I know you are but what am I?" without end. When confronted with facts, they deny it saying its all a conspiracy against them.

Come on right wingers, I know not all of you are tea baggers. At least they cant help themselves, but I expect better from you.

Its time to just admit, that the crop of pundits you are running are just not qualified to flip burgers, let alone assume leadership positions. They forget that everything they have said has been filed away and referenced for easy use in case they decide to suffer delusions of grandeur.

West will eventually fade away because he cannot risk having his record brought back out into the light of day. He will never run for president or vp unless it is a throw away election. Because the majority of Americans, when they hear of everything he pulled, will not stand for it. He is already on the wrong side of history. Hes one of the bad guys, better suited for comic book villainy. He openly admitted he tortured people, including policemen, in Iraq.

Im sorry guys, but if this is the best you have, you should probably pack your things and go home.

The America I stand for would never willingly allow such a person to get into an office that could run this country.

Florida though..well..we do have a habit of electing criminals.

A request
A request

please please mention to him that the israeli army allows gay men and women to serve openly and has not seen any problem at all with it. you just have to shoot straight not be straight...

Joe6
Joe6

Allen West is great and he supports Israel more than most Jews. The reporter here is Lia Rab. Hi Lisa. You sure have a Jewish name so I hope you support Israel at least as much as Allen does. Allen is fantastic in a thousand other ways too and HE HAS ISLAM'S NUMBER. He is probably the most knowledgeable member of Congress on Islam. He has served in Iraq and Afghanistan so mega-props to him!

Plus he isn't a lawyer like so many of the useless Congressmen are

Gefilte_Fish
Gefilte_Fish

"My concern... is that when you take the United States military, which takes the individual and their behavior and conforms it to the military, that's how you make a cohesive unit. Now, if we're saying we're gonna take the military and conform it to individual behaviors, then I am very concerned about the direction that we're going."

Wow, great response, Mr. Allen West. I support it.

"They volunteered to serve their military. And guess what? If that is the rule and it's a voluntary military, if you don't want to conform to that rule, is anyone twisting your arm to join the military? No."

Another good one.

Btw.....Thank you for voting No on Health Care repeal votes. I am beginning to question my doubts of you. You have shown to be your own man and not afraid to express it. (not that you do support Obama Care, but I read as to why you voted no).

I still do not agree with some of your beliefs but I do support and respect my Congress Representative whom have the courage (balls) and will not just vote along party lines for the sake. You seem very interested and commited to the well being of this country. You seem not interested in the Dog and Pony show of politics and do want change. Please be careful up there, its a fuck up place that will eat you and spit you out quickly, Be very prudent not just courageous. Godspeed!

Gefilefish (NPA)

SMDrPepper
SMDrPepper

Will someone give West a history book? Why does he not know that Palestine was indeed a country. It was right where Israel is now, which is why Palestinians are more than a little ticked off. Does he think there was no one there until the close of WW2?

How is it that these mentally deficient ignoramus such as West keep getting elected? Thought we were done with stupid after eight years of Bush jr.

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

I love the way West completely disregards the polls in one of Israel's oldest newspapers on the two state solution. It's further proof that this ideologue has no interest in debating the issues, especially when he is faced with facts that seem to contradict his understanding of the world.

You see, it doesn't matter what the majority of American jews and Israelis want. It only matters what the Colonel wants.

Anon
Anon

To GF3;Your post about the analogy of the blog being like a bar was spot on. I only hope its not turning into a gay bar. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It's just I want to hang out in a regular bar with no one trying to stick his dick up my ass all the time.

Anon
Anon

Guy seems logical to me and straight forward.

Ed Williams
Ed Williams

When my father told me about sex and relationships, about the first thing he said was that it was nobody's business other than mine and my partner's. This used to be known as having some class. This whole issue pisses me off because it is a waste of my time, and mostly seems like a cheap cry for attention by folks who are suffering from a pitiable lack of self esteem, and way too much time on their hands. Get a life... and leave me out of it! Geez!

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

The Likudniks are doing more harm to Israel and to jews worldwide than any previous administration. Bibi is a bull in a china shop, and just as he failed in his first term as Prime Minister, he is failing again.

Stop pretending to speak on behalf of all Jews.

You do not.

nanook5
nanook5

also, Congressman Harlan Ellison actually IS Muslim, as opposed to someone whose entire "knowledge" of Muslims consists of pointing guns at them and reciting Islamophobic talking points, so that's definitely a FAIL.

nanook5
nanook5

most jews are opposed to torture and collective punishment, so go figure.

blind leading blind
blind leading blind

Why don't you explain to us how Allen West "supports" Israel if he opposes a policy (a two-state solution) that a majority of Israelis desire? He supports hard-liners in Israel, who are a minority.

frank
frank

No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not."Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.

yuval
yuval

Dear VirgilHaaretz represents israel just like the KKK represents Florida. Its read by three percent of the population and quoted by 97 percent of the Media, which nobody believes because they get their facts and theories mixed up. Allen West knows exactly what he is talking about when he tosses haaretz info into the trash

Y Brandstetter MD, Israel 

Joe6
Joe6

What two state solution you commie moron? The one where Israel becomes lets go of the Golan Heights and entire West Bank so is rendered unable to defend itself? Israel let go of Gaza. That sure worked out great. Any more land the Israelis give up will be used as a forward base to fire rockets and missiles at Israel. Same as has been done in South Lebanon and Gaza.

Moron, are you even aware of the 800,000 Jews booted from Arab lands after Israel was founded? This balances out any Palestinians who left by themselves (most) or were booted (some)

Nona
Nona

Bob allowed homophobia to run rampant on his blog. I would hope that this new transition will block all the ugly old farts from making statements like these. Go fuck yourself you dbag.

Joe6
Joe6

 Hey brainwashed commie. Look around at all the Arab nations if you want to see apartheid. 20% of Israelis are Arab citizens and guess what commie. They don't live under apartheid. They travel freely. Go look at Egypts and Iraq where Christians are being killed wholesale by Muslims. Churches are being dynamited and burned down

Israel gave up all of Gaza and that's not enough for commies

Joe6
Joe6

Like a boring commie clone you use the world Likudnick ....Without having the faintest idea what it means. You saw it in print so you repeat itLikud keeps the Muslim Jihadists and killers at bay. They refuse to cave into the Muslims. Islam has been involved in Jihad for 1,400 years but you are too dumb to admit that. Their war against Israel is just another JIhad of many down through the centuriesYou want to see some real imperialism? Check out Islam's history starting with Muhammad the mass killer

frank
frank

 Likud is not in government.

Joe6
Joe6

Commie.... Like I said, a two state solution means Israel can't defend itself. Admit that you are just a parrot who who squawks "two state solution" without knowing what it means

guest
guest

Go there and you will understand, blind leading blind! The two state "solution" is NO solution. Giving the Golan Heights away so they can rain down terror on Israel again is no solution. Taking Jerusalem is no solution. Most people that are not Jewish that have lived there all there lives get along with the Jewish people. They don't really want the two-state proposition so that I think that the the polls you read are pretty skewed. Hamas and other Muslims keep wanting to take Israel inch by inch until there is nothing more left of it. As it is there is not much left of what God gave to the jewish people. One day it will be huge compared to what it is now but first all this "crap" has to happen first. Prophecy doesn't lie  and Bible prophecy has ALWAYS come true!!!!

Gefilte_Fish
Gefilte_Fish

Whom are the Philistine then? Just becuase someone in modern history decided to mispelled it, intentionaly or not. Dont; be a racist Schmuck .

"When Pharaoh let the people go, God did not lead them on the road through the Philistine country, though that was shorter. For God said, “If they face war, they might change their minds and return to Egypt.” 18 So God led the people around by the desert road toward the Red Sea.[a] The Israelites went up out of Egypt ready for battle. "

Exodus 13:17-14:9

btw..I meant to click the reply radio button not liked..I am not in aggreement with you modern day professor crap. This fight has existed for centuries.

Do not take this for gospel, I am not sure and do not really cared much to do research.

nanook5
nanook5

i have a holy book that says i count and you don't. i can't defend myself unless i can bulldoze your home and put a 15 foot wall in its place. you have 24 hours to comply, otherwise i reserve the right to melt your entire family with white phosphorus.

IrvingFeiner
IrvingFeiner

(not that there is anything wrong with that)

frank
frank

Virgil, you really are proving yourself to be ignorant, both of facts and of language.  

"I understand precisely what it means, just as I understand what "Apartheid" means, because that is precisely what is occurring now in the occupied territories. "Under a two-state solution, there would be Arabs living in Israel, but no Jews would be allowed to live in 'Palestine'. Do you advocate this, because that is what the Palestinians policy is. Palestine would be Judenrein. Is that apartheid?

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

I understand precisely what it means, just as I understand what "Apartheid" means, because that is precisely what is occurring now in the occupied territories.

P.S. Are you that freak, "Joe Kaufman", because if you are, you are an embarrassment to Jews. No one with any credibility takes you seriously.

Gefilte_Fish
Gefilte_Fish

Concerning the origin of the name "Palestine," I will quote several applicable segments of Israel's history as follows...

In 14 BC, Israel became a nation. In circa 12 BC the Philistines invaded and occupied a strip of land by the Mediterranean Sea along the southwest coast of Israel. In 61 BC, Israel was conquered by the Roman Empire. For many years (including New Testament days) the Roman Empire allowed the Israelis to remain in Israel, as a subservient people. In 70 AD the Roman Empire destroyed the temple in Jerusalem and dispersed all the Israeli people out of Israel. Rome then renamed Israel as "Palestine" -- a name derived from the ancient name, "Philistines."

Joe6
Joe6

Israel defends itself against the Muslim Jihad. You just can't handle that. You prefer the WW2 Jews who went to Auschwitz without having any guns to fire back

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