Rick Scott Returns Florida to Reconstruction-Era Racist Voting Law

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Rick Scott is showing his Confederate roots.
Remember the 2000 election debacle, when Florida became the laughingstock of the nation? It wasn't just punch-card ballots that caused our fair state such embarrassment. It was the wrongful purging of thousands of voters from the rolls because they were misidentified as felons.

That mishap brought to light the painful fact that Florida had the largest number of disenfranchised felons in the nation -- a disproportionate swath of whom were African-American. This was no accident. And Rick Scott knows it.

Yesterday, Scott and his Cabinet passed an archaic rule requiring nonviolent felons to wait five years after completing their sentences before applying to have their voting rights restored. This
means citizens won't be able to participate in the most basic tenet of our democracy, despite having paid their debt to society. Why such a bizarre punishment? Why, if they are free to move into our neighborhoods, get jobs, and pay taxes, can't they vote?  

Quick history lesson, courtesy of the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University: Florida's felon disenfranchisement laws were first passed in the years immediately after the Civil War. Legislators, having just freed the slaves, didn't want black men -- nearly half the state's population -- to have too much political power. So lawmakers passed Black Codes, outlawing minor offenses they thought ex-slaves would be likely to commit. Prison camps filled up with black men convicted of petty crimes. Then legislators took away the voting rights of felons.

This was a common disenfranchisement tactic used throughout the South, and it worked. In 2004, about 19 percent of Florida's African-American population could not vote because of the felony restriction.

To their credit, Govs. Jeb Bush and Charlie Crist heard the outcry after the 2000 election and worked to reform the outdated laws. By 2007, there was no longer a waiting period for felons to apply for voting rights, and nonviolent offenders didn't even have to apply -- their voting rights were automatically restored when they completed their sentences.

But yesterday, Scott turned back the clock. Only two other states -- Virginia and Kentucky -- have such Jim Crow-style voting restoration rules, according to the Palm Beach Post.

Some might  say Scott just wanted to disenfranchise Democratic voters. Or that he's tough on crime. But half of the state's prison population is black. And Scott just made sure many of those citizens will never be able to vote against him.

UPDATE: Read more about the history of felon voting laws and how ex-felons could have kept Scott out of office.

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Cynt1113
Cynt1113

Wow!  Most of the idiots on here do not seem to understand the prison system or "felons". First off morons you can be a felon just because you drove on a suspended license, yes it's against the law but is it really so terrible that a person should go to prison for it?  While you retards are worried about felons voting let me tell you most felons don't give a damn about that anyway. You're talking about people who have spent a significant amount of time locked up, treated inhumanly, told what to do, how long they have to eat, etc...do you really think they give a crap about whether or not they can vote...really people! What people need to be concerned about in how poorly inmates are treated.  You take a human being and strip them of all humanity, dignity, self respect, you turn them into primitive cave men and expect them to come out into society and be productive civilized human beings....they are treated worse than animals for god sakes....if you took a dog and treated it like we treat our inmates there would be an uprising but we seem to think it's ok to treat human beings that way.  Yes they broke laws....yes some are extreme violent offenders...but not everyone in the prison system is a career criminal!  Everyone has broke a law or two....you ever gone a even a mph over the speed limit...you broke a law....you ever jay walked...you broke a law...you ever had one beer and drove home...you broke a law....you ever had a woman give you a blow job.....you broke a law (most states that is illegal by the way). So you perfect citizens out there need to get off your high horse and realize you are just as much a felon as most inmates are you just haven't got caught yet!  Have you ever wondered why most inmates go back to prison, could it be because society has made it almost impossible to be normal citizens again, they can't find "legal" jobs, they are now "tainted" members of society by you "perfect" citizens.  Once a felon has served his time...leave them alone...you don't know the circumstance of why they were there so mind your own damn business. You never know how or what you would do to protect, provide for your family so don't judge what you don't know or understand!  My bible says thou shall not judge....what does yours say?

Danoinfla
Danoinfla

Those poor CONVICTED Felons. cant wait till one moves in near you. Bad behavior isn't cured by reward. it's controlled by laws. More dimwitted progressive thinking.

Jail Scott
Jail Scott

Interesting move, given Scott is an unpunished felon.

PERSHING75
PERSHING75

This is some sick ish! Folks who bilk millions (Wall Street) from common folks go on to play and bilk again while folks who have paid their debt to society still must pay. Just remember when you don't vote, you really are voting against yourself!!!! SMH

Yoshimi
Yoshimi

There are countries where voting is mandatory for everyone and you are fined for not voting. This brings up the issue of many extremely uneducated citizens voting for whichever candidate the polls tell them to or whichever candidate gave them a free t-shirt.

As opposed to voting for someone because they believe in their process, promises and message. I am fine with this law, in fact, encourage it as not a race issue but an educated issue. If minors can't vote, then why should felons be allowed to. Under the same premise where minors are not responsible enough to vote, felons should not be allowed to vote until they prove themselves worthy. Sure, there are felons that were wrongly accused, maybe even bsed on racial prejudice, but that is too small a percentage to negate the fact that I wouldn't trust the decisions of a felon when choosing our leaders.

Scott Levison
Scott Levison

Yoshimi...You don't think ex-felons can vote, but I bet you get mad if they don't pay their taxes. To you, paying a debt to society is something that must be extended after the sentence is complete. This is racism, pure and simple...a variation of "ethnic cleansing" of the voter rolls.

jakeruns
jakeruns

Rick Scott is exactly the wrong ***hole for Florida.

BeAHuman
BeAHuman

Seems to me that there is some latent racism seeping out here.

The legislation addresses the behavior of the individual and requires that felons apply to restore their voting rights (tell me if I'm wrong about that)The author isn't looking at the act of the individual, she is looking at the race of the individual. Does anyone else see that as a problem? Isn't that our goal, that we see people, and not race? I just don't get it. I don't get that thinking. I don't get the problem with felons losing rights. I'm pretty sure felons lose the right to own fire arms also, so where is the uproar about that?

Its just entrenched, toe-the-line thinking.

Scott Levison
Scott Levison

Cuban-American ex-felons have had little problem ib getting their rights restored. They vote Republican 99% of the time. This is racism...pure and simple.

BeAHuman. Do you not see how fucked up it is that after a felon has served his time that he must still be punished by not being allowed to vote? You don't have a problem in taking money from him for taxes, do you?

Knoviell
Knoviell

Polititions in any party are somewhat narrowminded in the cause for their own party. However, Rick Scott, notice how I didn't say governer Rick Scott, has gone too far by inacting this law. Racist or not, a convicted felon that has served time and carried out their sentence should have all of their basic rights restored. Thier punishment was the sentence, not losing their right to vote afterwards. What I like the most about this whole fiasco is that right-wing republicans claim that socialism leads to the abuse of power from the government, while they aprove of laws like this one that basically gives them a sort of authoritarian power.

Scott Levison
Scott Levison

To right-wing Republicans like Scott and Jeb Bush, if ypou are a minority, you will tend to vote Democratic...they can'rt let that happen, so they "ethnically cleanse" the voting rolls. they did it in 2000 and 2004. they got angry when crist went against the party line and restored rights. Kind of funny that a dognapping thief like Pam Bondi would put this idea forward. In the Wild West, she'd have been hung for thievery...

Dehold38
Dehold38

If you break the law and you should be punished. Once your debt to society is paid then all rights should be restored. If you are on probation or out for good behavior then I think you should wait to have your rights restored. I think its a bunch of crap that somebody should restore your right "carefull." What an idiot?

Pat
Pat

Rick Scott is a felon, what is he doing preaching about felon laws.

Pat
Pat

It's too bad Rick Scott is even being discussed here since he is one of the biggest career criminals in history. I can't understand why people have to undergo a background check and here is Scott, also a felon, running the State of Florida. He needs to be removed now and not in 9 months or 12 months or 16 months. He will ruin the State of Florida. People please the petition now before he does more damage to the State and to the working peole of Florida. Scott resign.

Dave C.
Dave C.

The reason people don't show up to vote is the same reason why they collect unemployment or want federal benefits or want overpaid pensions and so much more... It is called being LAZY.

The reason someone commits a crime 90% of the time is because they are too LAZY to do the actual work to make money or go to school to become educated and find of good job. It does not matter if you are white, black, yellow or brown. Some people are LAZY and need to be taken care of, that is life. They do not want to work or go to school, it is easier to take from society rather than earn their keep in the world and go to work to do an honest job for an honest pay or to get an education to do so. Those who want to stop working early, still get paid and feel it is deserved fall into the same category, they too are LAZY. Imagine everyone in the USA had a pension similar to some of the Unions and Government agencies. There is no way the country would be able to maintain.

It is these same people who are LAZY that when it comes to have to vote are to LAZY to bother having to wait in line and actually place a vote (to difficult and time consuming to get in the car, drive to a voting station, wait in line, pull the curtain and touch a button). Hell, skip all that, they are too LAZY to even decide who is the better candidate before having to place the vote. Maybe it cuts into their TV time?

This is why America is falling apart and coincides with the lowest voter turnout of any democracy (someone commented that but I don't know if it is true). People are getting Lazier by the day. If someone can stay home, watch TV, play games or whatever they do and still get money, they figure why should I have to work. At the company I work for, a few years back I use to hear people tell each other, "never work more than you have to", "do just enough to get by", "don't do anything extra unless they pay you". Those are the same people now at home getting unemployment while my work load has been increased 20%. I seem to be the minority when it comes to understanding in this day and age; you have to work and be responsible for your life and not look for everyone else to take care of you. You get out of life what you put into your life and your society.

It is a sad state of affairs out there when there are so many politicians who support these people staying home, or crazy pensions, making excuses, blaming everyone or anything else. It is so frustrating by at least I know I am doing the right thing. I always work an extra 10% than what is required and now I am job safe, my family is safe, my home is safe, I have a future, I am building my own retirement, I sleep at night, feel good about myself, etc.. The part I don't like is having to pay extra taxes for those who choose to be LAZY.

Kay Bright
Kay Bright

It's time to dust off our civil rights shoes and start protesting again!

Kay Bright
Kay Bright

Scott is nothing more than a criminal himself. He shouldn't have the right to vote. He pled the 5th amendment numerous times in that investigation into his activities with the Medicare/Medicaid fraud case! Take his vote away! Better still RECALL his butt for his criminal activities and associations!

Aeandr
Aeandr

He's going to be one of those felons one day.

Curious...
Curious...

wait...since when are you allowed to vote once you've been convicted as a felon at all?

Scott Levison
Scott Levison

If you're a White Christian Republican, it's OK...

Evan Rowe
Evan Rowe

It's just anti-democracy at work. But this state is huge and has huge problems in terms of fighting the democratic deficit. The main problem with the bill is it is classist. Most of these felonies (without looking, i'm just going to bet from national averages) are non violent drug offenses. So we have this huge drug war--which is first and foremost a subsidy to the major dealers. Virtually all of their cartel mark up comes from the drug war itself. So they not only redistribute the wealth upwards--but then they use the working class base to feed parts of the criminalization of the drug war, which is the prison system. That is why it's so important for the legal bureaucracy that is subordinated to the concentrated political and capital of the major dealers to keep so many inmates, and to make so many drug busts. That is why we have 25% of the world's prison population in the U.S. It's like any political routine that has ever existed in our history: It's machine politics. And you don't beat players in a machine, you either beat the machine and end it, or nothing changes.

Joseph
Joseph

I love the convoluted reasons that liberals come up for decisions republican government makes. It's really quite hilarious. All these layers upon layers of deceptive thinking pulled of thin air. And why the assumption that just because your an ex-felon and black means you're going to vote democrat? That's quite a stereotype you're pretty much failing to acknowledge in the midst of condemning Scott's law change as racist. Aren't you guys AGAINST stereotypes? Tell you what, when the Democratic party can become something more than a walking contradiction, maybe you won't have to cry foul so much on what the opposing party does.

Evan Rowe
Evan Rowe

Well, I think it's just using a little bit of statistics. So for instance, the black vote is heavily in favor of the Donkeys to the tune of 90%. So somebody sees a stereotype, I see a high percentage shot. More accurately though, the majority of the population does not vote at all. That's a much more telling part of our system. Only a minority is really committed hard core, and then you have the apathetic voters who just pick and vote. But the real smarties don't vote at all because for most people, and certainly people not making more than 40 grand a year, voting doesn't have anything to do with us. Elections are just events where competing business factions finance campaigns and candidates and then put them on the private media which are privately controlled by the same competing blocks of financial interests. The process is effectively rigged. So we might as well just vote on American Idol because at least that's more amusing.

Scott Levison
Scott Levison

So tell me why Cuban-American ex-felons had no problem getting THEIR rights restored under Jeb Bush's regime.

Must be because gusanos are Republican...

(and white)

Jeb
Jeb

To "DO SOMETHING" about the egregious gluttony, be aware that House Joint Resolution 785 was recently introduced to establish "recall" of elected Florida officials. The legislature is controlled by repooplicants, so everyone needs to strongly push their reps to pass this essential tool to minimally fire the hooligan Florida governor. There is a link to the state website where you determine how to fire off an email and/or call the state reps, just google the keywords "contact florida state legislators". WISE UP AND DO IT!

Kay Bright
Kay Bright

If they don't pass it, then they need to get a referendum on their ballot to be voted on by the people. I hope and pray that the moral, truly Christian people will be brave enough to stand up, speak up, and vote for what is right not white or rich!

Jeb
Jeb

This one little draconian measure is only the tip of the dirty iceberg. There are actually a number of other similarly slimey unethical measures that the repooplicants have concocted -- other than gerrymandering -- to reduce the number of eligible voters for other parties. Just one example, requiring difficult to obtain special ID cards for all of the potential Democratic-leaning electorate, such as the poor, minorities, young college students, like that... The repooplickers and teabuggers have degenerated into a "gun toting, white, racist" (per NPR) apparently pharmaceutically lobotomized mindless evilocracy, which they know will go the way of wooly mammoth, which is why they are now unconscionably stealing from the spending underclasses for themselves to be hoarded in offshore banks when America finally implodes due to the historically worst class inequality in history (in all prior incidences of this travesty, the nations imploded into financial ruin, revolt, and anarchy). DO SOMETHING NOW!

Lady Bird
Lady Bird

Isn't the teabagger governor of Michigan trying to get ELECTED Mayors and city commissioners thrown out so he can replace them with his own scum-, er, tea-bags?

Csharplaw
Csharplaw

America is already imploding. The class war has been going on since the early 1980's and the great Wall Street/goverment conspiracy was only the most recent victory for the rich. Now its tax cuts for the rich while they blame the average American worker for destroying the government pension system, when it was actually due to the the real estate bubble and junk mortgage backed securites that Wall Street sold to all of these state and local governmenst, backed by Moody's fraudulent AAA rating. When the government finally runs out of money for the unemployed, we'll have food riots and then its only a matter of time before our country collapses and wakes up as a Third World County that is owned by the Chinese. And unfortunately, there will be lots of violence and anarchy before its all over. It's actually a pretty exciting time to be alive with all of this hisotry being made, but its starting to get a little scary as well.

Workers of the World Unite!

Scott Levison
Scott Levison

You forgot to mention that the DOJ..while Bush was still in office...investigated this and found nothing wrong.

In fact, a member of the Bush admin wrote on this

http://www.nationalreview.com/...

Sorry..you lose...

SMDrPepper
SMDrPepper

With the repubs in power all over this country, we are seeing more and more steps towards fascism.They are going out of their way to make sure that they cant be voted out of office. Not only is Scott doing this, but in Texas they are making sure only the elderly and gun owners can vote easily since they generally only vote repub.I hate to tell these guys not just repubs own guns. And a LOT of us are getting very angry. If they keep this move towards totalitarianism continue, the tea baggers may get the revolution they are calling for. But it wont be for their side.

Kay Bright
Kay Bright

They assume that only their followers can read and understand their cryptic hidden messages! Boy, are they going to be surprised when they are wrong! I said when fatboy Limbaugh said, "We ought to Egypt Obama," that we were going to have a revolution all right, but it wasn't going to be the one he advocated. Looks like I was RIGHT! Revolution they want, then revolution they shall get!

Csharplaw
Csharplaw

With all due respect you obviously misconstrued my statement, and I happen to be a civil rights lawyer who has represented numerous black clients over the years (I'm not sure if they were African American, Caribbean American or Native American), so implying that I am a racist is a waste of your time. My point was not that black voters are by nature apathetic, but in our sill two party system, each party must energize their voter base if they have any hope of winning an election. In the last election, the Republicans beat the Democrats hands down at this game, even though the Dems have more registered voters in the state. The fact that black voters turned out in small numbers in the last election is pretty well documented, including on Bob Norman's blog. My point was not to criticize black voters, but to point out the hypocricy of the Dems taking some of their votes for granted, while doing nothing to encourage them to go to the polls. Although I disagree with most of the positions of both parties, one of their core functions for the past two hundred years has been to provide (mis)information to their voters in an effort to get them to go to the polls. To suggest otherwise is to ignore the facts and the history of our political system.

If you can explain how this factual observation could possibly be an insult to anyone who has fought and died for the right to vote, I'm all ears. Last time I checked, our country has one of the lowest voter turnout rates of any democracy on earth, so if we end up with assholes like Rick Scott who try to reimpose Black Codes, its because a large number of us were apathetic and waived our right to partickpate in their own government. I'm a registered Independent voter who is equally disillusioned by both parties (probably more by the Republicans since I consider myself liberal and progressive) but I have voted in every election since I turned 18 in 1984, even if it only for the lesser of two evils. Heck, I even voted for Jesse Jackson in my first Presidential election because I thought Regan and Mondale were both idiots.

At least we both agree that Scott is an idiot so that's a good start. Now let's recall him or throw him out of office the next time we have the opportunity!

Kay Bright
Kay Bright

RECALL him, throw him out of office and try his butt for his crimes he did prior to winning the election. How people ignored that fact, is beyond me!

Lady Bird
Lady Bird

The cry for recalling Scott and his cronies went out BEFORE the new legislative session started. Can someone PLEASE tell us HOW TOrecall him and his Republican cronies? From what I understand, the state constitution doesn't provide for a recall of high-ranking politicians BY THE PEOPLE. What other options are there? With very few exceptions, lawsuits take too long to roll through the court system... In the meantime, the residents of Florida are screwed more and more...

Florida native
Florida native

I just want to say that although my login name is Florida native......I didn't vote for Scott nor do I like him but it is what it is. He is here (for now). But I still disagree that this particular law is racist. Why can't we go to a three party system or even a no party system? Let the politicians run on whatever platform they believe in and "we the people" can vote for who we consider the best man or woman. No party lines to argue about. Just vote for the best for our country! The winner would be the one with the majority of votes! Deep down, I think that is what we all want....isn't it?.... The best for all of us?? I don't like voting for a person only to have the electorate college totally ignore my vote which is the way it seems to be now. How can a state or part of a state give a majority of votes to one candidate and then have the electorates vote for the other guy because of the way the voting lines are divided?

Scott Levison
Scott Levison

The law IS racist. It's aimed at disenfranchising Blacks. Cuban ex-felons had no problem getting THEIR rights restored.

Imjustsayin
Imjustsayin

I in no way meant to imply that you are a racist, rather, I find it discouraging when a particular demographic is singled out as needing inspiration or excitement as opposed to the base as whole.If the fact is that black voter turnout was lower than voter turnout as a whole, and your interpretation is that the party did not do enough to energize that base, the same facts can be conversely interpreted that black voters didn't care enough to participate in their own government. The interpretation is a matter of opinion (not sure how you could objectively determine cause here based on effect).That's why I take umbrage with the broad brush used when discussing black voters as a whole. I have quite a few friends (of varying ethnicities) who voted based on what they thought would benefit them as individuals, not as members of any one ethnic or cultural community. Some of them even voted for Rick Scott! But I know of noone who cast their vote based on racial allegiance.

You are, of course, factually correct that a major function of both parties has been to energize their voters, and that the approach to doing so is often tailored to the needs and wants of the particular community being targeted.I concede the point that their are large swaths in every demographic who would wander aimlessly if not herded in the right direction, and the Democrats were poor shephards.Let us say that we heartily agree on the facts, most likely agree on the interpretations, probably express ourselves differently based on our individual personalities and life experiences.

Kudos to your for your chosen profession, it is an honorable one. I also hold no beliefs that you are a racist (I don't know you, and your post suggests otherwise). However, please forgive me for nitpicking when I say that being a civil rights lawyer is not an iron-clad retort to charges of making a prejudicial or stereotyped remark. It's one step above the "my best friend is black" defense. Plenty of social workers, civil rights lawyers, and community activists have an innate condescension in their attitude towards those that they work most ardently to help. I've seen enough of that first hand, where someone feels compelled to do good by helping all of those "inherently disadvantaged" brown people so desperately in need of their superior cultural guidance (Again, not claiming that YOU hold this attitude, but it is prevalent).

And Fred Phelps, of Westboro Baptist fame, is a decorated civil rights lawyer.Check out this quote from the ever-so-factual wikipediaIn the 1980s, Phelps received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and the Bonner Springs branch of the NAACP, for his work on behalf of black clients.

In conclusion, thank you for your well-reasoned, articulate response. It's heartening to know that there are intelligent, independent minded individuals such as yourself still voting in Florida.

Csharplaw
Csharplaw

Good points all around and it's nice to see a reasoned discussion on this blog. After considering your replies I think we probably agree about 90% on this issue and I'm sorry if I misinterpreted the intent of your comments. No group of voters should ever be taken for granted in our democracy. I think the biggest mistake made by the Dems in the last election was to completely ignore Kendrick Meek, and to essentially write hm off a serious contender before the race even started. Kendrick was by the far the best candidate out there, and he ran almost no negative ads, but his message got lost in the pissing match between Charlie "the Panderer" Crist and the fascist hypocrite Marco Rubio. Had the Dems done anything to support Meek, instead of ignoring him, I think it would have energized enough of the black vote (as well as other progressive voters who stayed home) to put Sink in the governor's office.

I also agree that there are large swaths of voters both white and black who wander aimlessly if not herded in the right direction. If we could somehow motivate them to think for themselves, I think we could solve alot of problems, but unfortunately, the silent moderate majority gets drowned out the by the extremists of both parties. Until we can change the tone of the discourse, it will be more of the same.

Finally, and although I see now that you were not insulting me, you are correct that simply being a civil rights lawyer is meaningless, given the Fred Phelps of the world. However, if you ever need a lawyer for a civil rights or employment law issue, keep me in mind and hopefully my actions will speak louder than my words.

Christopher C. Sharp

Csharplaw
Csharplaw

The saddest part of all this is that we are here discussing how to preserve the rights of a bloc of voters who, had they turned out in any significant numbers, could have defeated Scott at the polls. Unfortunately, the Dems did nothing to excite or inspire the black voters, and, as a result, Alex Sink lost by the slimmest of margins. Sadly, the racism cuts both ways in Florida: the Republicans try to strip the rights of black felons while the Dems shamefuly take their votes for granted. If I was black I think I'd read the writing on the wall and move somewhere else rather than sit idly by while Scott and his Tea Party cohorts reimpose the Black Codes. I can't think of a better argument for a progressive liberal third party movement in this country. Workers of the world unite!

Imjustsayin
Imjustsayin

Preface:I think Rick Scott is a dangerous man in his position as governer and find this action abhorrent.

That being said, "...the Dems did nothing to excite or inspire the black voters.."? Really? All over the world people are risking their fortunes, their families and their lives all for the right to participate in their government.You post is an insult to every intelligent, concerned African-American voter who participates in our democratic process and a pathetic excuse for all those who do not.Nobody has a responsibility to excite and inspire any individual or demographic. People have and still do shed blood for the right to vote.

KennyPowersSays
KennyPowersSays

Thank you Tea Party. Thanks for the new state of misery.

Florida native
Florida native

Wrong people to blame KennyPowers. Blame the new Socialists that are trying to kill this country. I have lived in Italy and I don't want the USA to go in that direction! Thanks but no thanks. I left because it was not pleasant to live like that. Oh yeah, Great system . ALL medical provided? Well, how would you like to have your leg broken in multi places on a Friday night in a motorcycle accident and lay in the hospital until Monday to get treated because the doctors were not there on the weekend??? All food and pain medication had to be brought in by the family in the meantime. I'm serious! It wasn't me but a 16 yr. old family member. When her leg was finally set, it was too long after the fact; and after a year of agony, she was taken to Bologna to have it RE-BROKEN and re-set. BUT....it didn't cost anything! !!??Is that what we want here?? I certainly don't!!

Scott Levison
Scott Levison

FloridaNative: Please tell us what "socialaists" and your disdfain for Italian health care have to do with The Bald Headed Dildo showing his true racist colors. Are we missing something here? Oh, I see...first you give Black ex-felons the right to vote...then the next thing you know, they'll want health care. I gotcha.

Gawd...What a teabagging moron...

Arnief
Arnief

lol, guys get a grip liberLism was defeated last Novembet. As Barru Sotello said after he was elected President "we won!"

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