The Tea Party Is the Muslim Brotherhood of America? You Betcha

MSNBC's Chris Matthews made a remark yesterday comparing the Tea Party of America to the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt.

"So the Muslim Brotherhood has a parallel role here with the Tea Party," he said. "They're the ones who keep you honest and decide whether you've stayed too long?"

That's what you might call a backhanded compliment. Mr. Hardball could have gone so much further with the comparison.

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A typical Tea Party sign

The truth is that the Muslim Brotherhood and the Tea Party have a lot in common, starting at the most basic level. Both movements are dedicated to driving the world backward into a religious state, one for Allah, the other for God.  

The difference is that the Muslim Brotherhood is very clear about its intention to bring strict Sharia law from the Qur'an to the world. The Tea Party, on the other hand, likes to keep itself wily and undefinable. It would like to deny that its movement is rooted in religion -- namely messianic Christianity -- but the evidence is undeniable.

This isn't an attack on religion. The majority of Christians and Muslims are moderate and good people who want to coexist peacefully (thank God). The problem is that in the Tea Party and the Muslim Brotherhood, you have similar extremist, dominionist goals that aim to wrap the world up into eternal conflict between the two. It's not just backward, it's dangerous.

Both have the right to be heard -- and then to be put on the fringes where they belong.

All you have to do is look at the leaders to see what the Tea Party, at its core, is really all about. Here's a quote from U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, a leader of the tiny Tea Party Caucus. DeMint is a fundamentalist who recently said he didn't believe gay people or unmarried women who are unchaste should be allowed to teach in public schools. Here's a key DeMint quote: "Turning back to God in effect is our salvation, and government is not our salvation, and in fact, more and more people see government as the problem, and so I think some have been drawn in over the years to a dependency relationship with government, and as the Bible says, you can't have two masters."

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Rand Paul and his dad have ties to Christian Reconstructionists, who are the absolute counterparts to the Muslim Brotherhood. Reconstructionists believe in bringing archaic and savage Biblical law to America (think death penalty for adultery). Reconstructionism is very much like Sharia, including the utter subjugation of women, only it comes under the Christian brand.  

How about Tea Party's matron saint, Sarah Palin? She's a Wasilla Assembly of God fundamentalist who has said that God told her to get into politics and that the Iraq War is a "task from God." Read here for more on that.

And finally, we have Fort Lauderdale Tea Party leader Gabriel Jose Carrera, an ordained Pentecostal minister who is very open about his religious motivations.

"The difference between me and a liberal-slash-Obama lover is that I believe my rights come from God," he told me. "The Constitution says it comes from God."

Really?

Inside, more religious musings from our resident Tea Party leader. 


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When Carrera claimed that the Constitution said that American rights come from God, I told him that it said no such thing.

"The first right is the right of religion," Carrera continued. "Not freedom of the press. The freedom of religion is the first one in the framer's mind."

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Carrera with Sen. Marco Rubio
Actually the framers, of course, wrote in the First Amendment that the government "shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." In other words, they were protecting our rights from religion.

"Right," said Carrera when I brought this up. "No religion of the United States. That does not mean that you throw out all religion."

I asked him why he wanted to impose his religious views on the country. 

"It's been there since the 1700s, and it's only recently that people are coming out against it," Carrera answered. "People who are atheists are coming out against it: 'I'll take the Ten Commandments off the wall just to piss them off.' They are trying to take the Ten Commandments off the wall instead of trying to clean up the street of pedophiles and other things they should be doing. They are so focused on taking God out of the public square, and the thing is that religion has been part of America for 200 to 300 years, and now it's being wiped away. And you see this in the leftist nations that are being socialized... Russia, Venezuela. The first thing you do is take God out; then you strip the people from their guns."

Carrera then defined what he sees as "reality."

"There are other creatures up in heaven, and they are looking at us, and they are like shaking their heads: 'What's going on down there?'" he said. "That's reality. This is not reality. Look around. What somebody farted and the world came into effect? No. Look around and you see the glory of God. Jesus and everything in the Bible is true, compared to Darwinism."

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jad
jad

Virgil. You’re right about the way that Pulp has the right to choose what he would like to present to his (blog) readership. (Like you, I am a devoted reader of Pulp’s columns, although unknowing about plugging into his Internet blog in the beginnings, in which my reading was limited to hard copy.) I don’t know if you remember or not, (but) -- Ever since the time that I became stymied on how to comment on one of Bob Norman’s articles, I’ve been meeting tea party people -- to try to get a further understanding, so that I can talk about them, with some knowledge and understanding. However, I am now more confused about the identifiable tea party people than when first seeking them out. Do you know that some of them are not even registered to vote? Also, it does not seem to matter about party affiliation -- as there are democrats as well as republicans.

Maybe there should be more coverage of these (various) individuals in the tea party movement (that the republicans are trying to hijack as their own). We need more discussion about this group (especially the faction closest to us, as we would be better able to understand the motivation for this group, in a more substantial manner). I tend to look at them in the same way as the early Bolsheviks have been seen. (You know -- good intentions, but we all know where that leads.) A rout of Bolsheviks helped tear down a country (that had almost 1,000 years of friendship & fellowship, under the czars and a couple czarinas), but, instead of their more even-toned message, the Russian people got hit over the head with Lenin’s mish-mosh (of his take on Marxism) and Stalin’s works (from his days as corresponding secretary), whereupon over 60 million Russians were eventually murdered, tortured to death, or horrifically starved to the end (after the change-over that occurred because of the take-over). What is sensed from such a change is to beware of the person you place, who may be much worse than the person replaced.

I’m not saying that such a thing would occur here. But, with the way of the world, you should know that which surrounds you.

Not Ray B.
Not Ray B.

The Tea Party is as grass roots as the Republican party and Dick Smarmey with the millions he spent as part of Freedomworks to start this "grassroots" movement. Sorry to say this, but If Obama was White, there probably wouldn't be a tea party and all the hate directed at the current President who received a larger majority vote than the last rich white boy from Texas who said he had a mandate.

Palin, like most of the people in the news, is in in for the money, power and fame. She is about as religious as many others on the right who use Jesus's name to get votes.

WWJD - he would probably throw them out of the temple/Senate/Congress just like he did the Pharisees.

Go Packers - Although they would have won the Super Bowl 6 years ago if Thompson hadn't pressured Favre out of the organization.. Brett would have pulled it out again. Oops, bad analogy.

Yikes
Yikes

What are you morons talking about, he's 100% correct. These people are absolutely insane and they are colluding with big business to scare old people, racists and the mentally handicapped into voting for them in large numbers.If you want a nation run by people who pray instead of think then we're in big trouble.

Wonderfulrobin
Wonderfulrobin

So, the Tea Party IS the muslim brotherhood of America...hmmm

novenator
novenator

As someone who has been to 3 Tea Parties as an observer and studied the movement since it's inception (the New astroturfing Tea Parties post the infamously staged Santelli rant on CNBC in Feb 2009, not the old grassroots Ron Paul Tea Parties), I can tell you that there are some eerie parallels between them and Islamist movements like the Muslim Brotherhood.

This is not to say that most participants are like this, and there is some regional variation (Western conserva-libertearians tend to be less religious), but the leaders and most outspoken advocates are certainly advocating some pretty sinister, draconian stuff.

From imposing the 10 commandments in the public square, to forcing creationism into schools, to working against education, to attacking the rights of women, gays, minorities, and immigrants, to a general intolerance towards anything they don't like, they can represent an ultra-conservative segment of society that is well armed, paranoid, and certainly dangerous: http://www.csgv.org/issues-and...

Again, this does not mean everyone of them is like that, just their leaders and their more fanatical followers (the ones that get most of the attention). The majority are just concerned folks who are far too gullible to question the propaganda they are being fed and going with the flow (which might be analogous to the Muslim Brotherhood, who I have seen while in Egypt).

Daved E
Daved E

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Black Bart the Wonder Dog
Black Bart the Wonder Dog

Norman really exposes his lack of jounalistic objectivity when speaking about issues such as this. IMHO writings like this reveal why Norman's career as a journalist never reached beyond a third or fourth rate publication.

Stick with local politics, its less alienating for a lot of us.

Guest
Guest

I"t's not just backward, it's dangerous " Well said, Pulp. Well said!

Nucky Thompson
Nucky Thompson

I was hoping that Pulp's column today would be about the FAU police officer who shot the call girl.

"Ho shoots ho" would have been a great headline.

DeathFrog3
DeathFrog3

I dont think the analogies are the appropriate. It's like comparing Obama to Hitler, both male, both leaders of their nation, both involved in wars in the middle east, both good speakers. But they're not analogous.

The Muslim Brotherhood has a stated goal of bringing Sharia Law around the world. The Tea Party has no such religous purpose. The Tea Party movement has members from all different religous sects and no religious ties at all.

This seems like a left wing "shot" at the Tea Party.

I can't believe that people are happy with the state of our country. It has nothing to do with political party or left or right.

The Republicans have co-opted the Tea Party movement to retain power.

I was taught a long time ago, when a person can't argue the facts, they attack the messenger. Name calling only shows your weakness on a topic.

Dave E
Dave E

This Cause célèbre (Pulps collection of made-up slander of good people) may not be grounds for termination, but it could try to "do better" and be more independently original and responsible. Consistent third party contracting of false comparisons becomes trite to the reader and is callow and portentous, especially to those who respect their country, not revile it.

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

And by the way, here is a show of support for the Pulp writing about whatever he chooses because it is his column. The overwhelming majority of people who are objecting to this blog today are doing so because they disagree with Pulp's opinion. If you don't like it, go ahead and get your own column, although some of you may first want to take a course in writing so that your readers can actually understand the disjointed thoughts that pollute your respective minds.

And of course, like many conservatives, your first instinct--rather than intelligently debating an issue--is to censor. (A fascist instinct) Hence, the calls for the Pulp to please stop writing about these issues. I am an avid reader and have been for years, and the Pulp is just as qualified as any national writer to opine on these subjects.

And quite frankly, some of us like an occasional break from hearing about the same sewer rats that have corrupted this very small town. None of these comments apply to Skydove and most others, just the usual rightwing douchebags who post under different monikers every week.

Smdrpepper
Smdrpepper

Some very scary stuff. I love how the tea baggers love to say that they are out to defend freedom, yet only if you look, act, and believe JUST as they do. Otherwise your anti american an should be put up against the wall.Comparing them to the Muslim Brotherhood MIGHT be far fetched since we really do not know alot about them. Only that they have the word "Muslim" in their name and that scares a lot of people.But now they are the villains according to the tea bag pulpit known as FOX news. Funny how they never notice that Egypt is Sunni and not Shia like Iran. Also amusing that they forget that those two groups REALLY hate each other.So I am on the fence with the Muslim Brotherhood until more information is available.As for the tea baggers, I would compare them with the Shia of Iran. Both are insanely Fundamentalist and extremely against anything that is not them. And that makes both very dangerous to this country.

Fresca
Fresca

Northbeacher, save the postage. I don't need bright shiny objects, thank you.

I believe the commentary section serves as a means of communicating feedback to Pulp. With that intention, I shared my personal preference that he not devote columns to his "take" on the Middle East. Likening the Muslim Brotherhood to America's Tea Party movement is shameful. A temperamental Shih Tzu should not be analogized to a rabid Pit Bull simply because they are both canine. Bottom line: for me, and perhaps only me, I prefer a typical Pulp column about waste, fraud, abuse or corruption in South Florida.

That is my comment.

cindermaggi
cindermaggi

BE CAREFUL PULP...............JEB BUSH LIKES THEM!

Jimmy TheFish
Jimmy TheFish

I guess the muslim brotherhood is not that bad than, huh. I bet you liberals wouldnt give two shits if the Muslim brotherhood took over egypt, hell you would cheer them on, provide them with support ala anonymous. But if there is even a hint that the tea party would take over america you would lose your shit, you continuously whine about the prospect of a "fascist" tea party take over. Why is that LIBERAL

JonnyForever
JonnyForever

Thankfully the Tea Party loons are not the majority in the United States.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III

I'll have to call double-bullshit on your comparisons and analogies !

Steve-O
Steve-O

The "Tea Party" has nothing to do with religion. There are religious people who have been swept along with the movement but you are making a mistake of trying to smear the tea party movement as such. The Tea Party is an outgrowth of the failed Ron Paul for President campaign of 2008. This a distinctly libertarian and secular strain of conservatism. Sarah Palin and others have simply jumped on the bandwagon. If they do have a deity they pray to, its Ron Paul. Which makes it even more revolting.

skydove
skydove

I won't comment on Pulp's parallels between TP & MB, but I will point out that Chris Matthews's second query ["They're the ones who keep you honest and decide whether you've stayed too long?"] is really reaching.

The Muslim Brotherhood has undergone various changes in direction since its TwenCen inception. It's done pious community service (as has its offspring, Hamas); it's supported Hitler. In Egypt, where the MB was born, it has been illegal for over a half-century. Every government since Nasser's has oppressed it and thrown its leaders into prison whenever some rifle-shot intimidation seemed to be in order. Mubarak has allowed the organization far more leeway than it had, for example, right after the assassination of Sadat. This is because Mubarak knows that the MB knows that he can bring the hammer down at any time, and therefore the MB doesn't get too far out of line. The organization is represented in the national legislature, although not as Brothers. So for Matthews to suggest that at the start of the demonstrations, the MB had anything to say about the longevity of the Mubarak dictatorship is absurd.

The middle class, which is nothing like a numerical majority in Egypt, is the party who's decided that Mubarak has stayed too long. Press reports suggest that the rural poor, as well as the small business owners in Cairo whose little shops are being destroyed during this chaotic period, regard an unknown post-Mubarak regime with apprehension if not fear. Like the uneducated poor in many places, the Egyptian majority seems to be tending in the direction of "Let's leave bad enough alone."

OneMansTrash
OneMansTrash

Flabberghasted! You just "jumped the shark". Your opinion is your's to express, but how does it advance the discussion of the direction our Country?

The religious right has no more power than the liberal left. They are both at the mercy of the the majority which are being called the independents. Support for them will go away when the message no longer rings true, just as it did for the left in the November elections.

I do not share their religious fervor, but I certainly beleive in fiscal responsibility, taking personal responsibility for you actions, the answer to your problems isn't the Federal Government, you earn the rights given, they aren't birth rights, society owes me nothing, I owe society for the opertunities availed but this great country.

This is my opinion, please don't polarize the the issue, please don't kill the debate, I believe we are at a tipping point, both domestically, and abroad that we may never recover our status as the greatest country in the world.

I remember the sixties. On campus of the University, 1% were blowing up ROTC bulidings, 9% were putting flowers in rifles, 9% were diligently going to class to learn, 1% were Neiderlander, the rest of us were just trying to learn enough to make a living, smoke a little grass, drink a little beer, and get laid.

Not much has changed.

DB Cooper
DB Cooper

Keep it local. Leave this commentary to the big boys.

I'm outa here
I'm outa here

The tea party wants to stone adulters to death.Hang Homosexuals.take away every right of women from driving to voting.Behead non-believers and confiscate all their property.

You sound like that douche bag Virgil. Wait a minute you are Virgil.You lost me, bro! and although you don't know me I have been with you from the beginning.

Northbeacher
Northbeacher

Sorry Pallin, MissHell Bachmann, Witchinne O'Donhell, Randy Paul, Markup Rube-eeh-oh, Sharrone WrongAngle, and so on... What a bunch of sensationalist, wrong-headed, looney-tunes politicians ("politicians" being a "dirty word")... They were comical for a while, but now they have become just as sickening as the Repooplicants and the lesser of two evils Demonrats. Wake up people, vote for some of those "mad as hell" and "the rents too high" candidates, they MIGHT actually try to change something.

Fresca
Fresca

I really don't enjoy this column when you use it as pulpit. (Pun not intended.)

Is there anything else you can write about?

Jesus is a Democrat
Jesus is a Democrat

The Tea Party Movement and GOP are the antithesis of the teachings of Jesus Christ.People need to stop blindly following religious leaders and actually understand what Jesus was saying.

Gator
Gator

These pinheads are very entertaining . . . until you realize they are serious.

Guest
Guest

Well said DF3!

Christy
Christy

That sounds swell Virgil.

Pulp
Pulp

Here the Wikipedia entry on the Muslim Brotherhood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...Basically the Muslim Brotherhood is a group that espouses non-violent means to bring Sharia law to the Middle East. It's political in nature and has been banned in Egypt. It's not a terrorist organization, but it is hardcore Islamist and steadfastly anti-Israel. It's sort of like an advanced and more civilized version of the Taliban. One Egyptian student was quoted saying, “The Muslim Brotherhood hasn’t offered any effective action for Egypt over the last three or four decades except talk and to criticize the present system. I don’t think the Egyptian people in the next step (following the transition to a new government) will accept them. If they hold Egypt, we will go back many years.”Again, that sounds like the ... well, I already said it in the headline didn't I?It's something to be watched very closely but the idea that the MB is going to take over Egypt in a heartbeat and turn the country into radical Islamist state is unlikely despite the Chicken Littles at Fox. That said it must be watched, especially if it really starts getting opportunistic. At times like these the most brutal -- aka the Saddams-- are the ones that often seize power.

unowho
unowho

THE SON WILL COME OUT TOMORROW??? (JB)..........LOL

Gator
Gator

"you earn the rights given, they aren't birth rights"

I don't believe the Founding Fathers would have agreed with this statement.

unowho
unowho

One Mans Trash :This is my opinion,please dont polarize the issue,please dont kill the debate, ....I BELIEVE WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT,BOTH DOMESTICALLY, AND ABROAD THAT WE MAY NEVER RECOVER OUR STATUS AS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!.....Time to forget politics and religion and work together!!!

Middle of the Road
Middle of the Road

No kidding. Bob has recently wandered well off of any topic that he is competent to rant about.

Linda
Linda

No one says you can.t dropout any time!

Northbeacher
Northbeacher

So, what "bright shiny objects" would you prefer to read about Fresca? Maybe some homeless person that has a so-called "eloquent voice"? How about how clean the SoFla beaches are? Maybe something about how nice the people are here?

Methinks you are in the wrong place Fresca, or maybe you are just here to irritate down to earth folks. Frequent "pill mills" often? (puns intended)

Pulp
Pulp

Fresca, I hear you, and all I can ask of you is to forgive me the occasional indulgence.

Nucky Thompson
Nucky Thompson

No need to apologize for the pun as there wasn't one.

Fresca
Fresca

Pulp, I know you rely on vast informational sources beyond Wikipedia. At the very least, there exists considerable debate about the motives and methods of the Muslim Brotherhood (as there is with the Tea Party, I know). My research and studies tell me to be more wary of the former.

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

And to blanketly label someone as "anti-Israel", does not mean they do not have a valid reason. It often means they oppose the policies of their government.

Whether some of you want to believe it or not, Israel has devolved into an apartheid regime that is consistently in violation of International law when it comes to its treatment of Palestinians. Many of you only see the suicide bombers without seeing the horrific oppression the Palestinians face. It is an international disgrace and our support for this regime is the primary reason--not the only one-- why those on the Arab street despise us.

Many intelligent and credible people also believe that our support for Israel and our inability to be a honest broker in the Middle East is what precipitates extremism in the Muslim world, not some fairytale about an ancient calpihate which is what those on the Right have been bamboozled into believing.

Faux News is a zionist propaganda operation that should come clean already and start broadcasting directly from Tel-Aviv. They are pushing this Muslim Brotherhood myth because that is what suits the zionist's interests. They support the dictator Mubarak because an expression of true democracy in Egypt would threaten the apartheid regime, their illegal blockade of Gaza and the West Bank and their illegal settlement building.

Zionism is supported not only by jews abroad but by christian evangelicals in this nation. The common link between these two--as Pulp pointed out-- is religious extremism. If you are a jew and care about the future of jews worldwide, you better open your eyes and your mouth and start speaking out on behalf of justice.

This is what many honorable human rights organizations continue to do in Israel.

God Bless them!

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/in...

Middle of the Road
Middle of the Road

For those of you interested in going beyond Wikipedia for your "information" and actually learning something about the Muslim Brotherhood, let me suggest that you get a copy of "The Looming Tower" by Lawrence Wright. It is a good primer. While there are several groups out there that are worse than the Brotherhood, let's just say they are no choirboys.

Pulp
Pulp

I'm wary of both.

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