Sunday Politics: Q&A With Tea Partier on Health Care

The Tea Party has demonized health-care reform -- or Obamacare, as it calls it -- to the point that the group seems to believe that it alone is going to destroy America.

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They've disrupted Congressional town hall meetings, screamed about socialized medicine, and decried supporters as traitors over the issue (including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords before she was shot; her office door was smashed just after she voted for the reform plan in March).

So I had a talk with local Fort Lauderdale Tea Party organizer Gabriel Jose Carrera about the issue. He revealed that he had no health insurance, despite the fact that he suffers from diabetes. Why? Carrera, a lawyer for the past five years, can't afford the outrageous rates. His two children do have health insurance -- through the government-subsidized KidCare program with the State of Florida. That may seem hypocritical, but it's nothing new with Tea Partiers. Sarah Palin-backed Tea Party candidate Joe Miller, who lost his bid to the U.S. Senate, was in the same boat, decrying government programs while accepting Medicaid and KidCare for his own eight children.

Inside, read Carrera's take on the issue, which includes his vision that America should return to the days of the Old West, when people were who were maimed and disfigured got "patched up" and then were left to die in their beds at home before they were buried in the backyard. 

Pulp Q&A with Carrera on health care

QUESTION: How do you feel about about American health care compared to Canada's system?

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Don't tread on him: Carrera at Tea Party event.
ANSWER: When it goes to doctor check-ups, [Canada's system] is a good thing, but it when it goes to complicated operations, when you get real sick, you get regulated there. I believe before this Obamacare, I think we had the best health-care system in the world, but it could have used some improvement and tweaking. I think we got to this place because a lot of these insurance companies when people started getting sick, the doctors inflated their prices to get money from the insurance companies. And when they inflated their prices, the insurance companies inflated theirs, and before you know it, it got out of control. I do not have health insurance, and I'm diabetic type II. Hey, I'd rather die free than live under tyranny. The thing is, I go to my specialist, and I said, "Hey, I'm a cash guy -- can you give me a discount?" He gave it to me. This week, I was out sick all week. I stayed home. I drank chicken soup. I called my doctor four times. He didn't call me back. So guess what? I can say screw you. I can go to another doctor and see if he'll take me. But if I was caught up with insurance companies, no.

Q: No health insurance? I take it you're single.

A: I'm married with two kids.

Q: Does that not scare you?

A: My kids have KidCare. It's a means-based insurance for kids. They look at what you make, and they charge according to what you make.

Q: So wait a minute... I'm paying for your kids' health insurance?

A: [pause] I have a private insurance... I want to say it's half-private and half-government. My wife did it; I'm not exactly sure. It's called KidCare. I had to send them my taxes and what I make, and I had to send them what the business was making because I work for myself, and according to what I make, they charge me. But I don't have any; my wife doesn't have any. But see, I can go to a doctor and negotiate prices. I found a lab, and they charge me $60 to see my blood levels for my diabetes. I pay $60 to see a doctor and $100 to see a specialist. I don't know how much these other people are paying. When I need teeth work and go to a dentist, I call and say how much do you charge instead of throwing the card down and saying charge as much as you want. That's where health care costs go up. The doctor is going to milk the insurance company, and the insurance company is going to milk the person.

Q: You do realize that if something catastrophic happens to you, then you will become a burden on the government and your fellow man.

A: We don't know that yet. What's catastrophic? Like I get run over by a Mack truck?

Q: Yes, and you survive and you're in intensive care for two months. That's going to cost how much? Let's say a half million. Who is going to pay that?

A: I assume part of it by the hospital. I assume part of it by the government. I may have to sell certain assets to pay it off. But this goes back to immigration. I'm a person who has been living in the United States for 46 years. I was born and raised here. I've been working, I've been paying taxes, I've been contributing to society. Now if somebody walks over the border and they're from, let's say Argentina, and they get hit by a Mack truck, do you think it's correct for the government to pay for them?

Q: Who else is going to pay for it if they can't?

A: Exactly. Should the Argentinian government be forced to pay for these people?

Q: I don't think the government can be held accountable for their citizens who left their borders. 

A: But aren't there Argentinian assets we may be able to put a lien on and say, "Hey, this is one of your citizens, and you're going to have to pay for it.'?"  

Q: Won't that just create another level of government bureaucracy you hate? You want a new Office of Argentinian Health Care Redistribution? 

A: Back in the 1800s, there were a lot of Christian organizations, a lot of not-for-profit ogranizations that assisted people, and they were done by donations. And people would give --

Q: Let me say this: There ain't no Christian organization that is going to fix you if you get hit by a Mack truck, brother.

A: What happens if I die and my children become orphans; who is going to take care of them? Do they get thrown in an orphanage? Do they become like Oliver? See, I don't expect everybody to take care of me. But if I'm thrown on the side of the road, I think public policy would at least say, "Hey, pick him up, patch him up, and throw him back in his bed and let his wife take care of him." But the thing is that I understand there's no silver bullet, but there are some mitigating things we can do now so we don't go into bankruptcy.

Q: You are telling me that you don't have health insurance, so if you get hurt, I'm going to have to pick up your tab. I'm using your language. It's going to be me that pays for you, OK?

A: But what if I don't [get hit by a Mack truck]?

Q: But what if you do? You're also telling me that I'm subsidizing your kids' health insurance? Why should I do that? These are your arguments.

A:  I would say you wouldn't.

Q: Well, I am.

A: You are. Now you're going to have to subsidize everyone else in the United States. So what do you think we should do?

Q: My opinion? I believe very strongly in a single payer national health-care system just like the rest of the goddamned civilized world has where we don't have to worry about this.

A: Basically what Obamacare is doing is basically guaranteeing that in 20 years, there will not be one private health insurance company left. It will be a one-payer system, the United States government, and everything the government does they ruin. [We got off on a discussion of public schools that I'll share later].

Q: A national health-care system has been talked about in this country for 50 years.

A: Yes, but those people are sympathetic to Chavez, Castro, and the Sandanistas.

Q: Richard Nixon backed a national health-care system. Who are you talking about?  

A: I told you I don't like Republicans either. Ted Kennedy was for one, Chris Dodd was for another, Richard Nixon was sympathetic too. There's not going to be a Jesus coming and wave his hand and all the lepers are going to be free of leprosy, all the lame are going to run off. It's not going to happen. We have to debate ideas like you and I are doing right now. You've got people on MSNBC saying I'm stupid, that I'm kooky, that I'm nuts, and that I shouldn't be listened to because I've got a yellow T-shirt with a snake on there that says "Don't Tread on Me." Listen to what I have to say. Don't ridicule me. Look, when you make fun of Sarah Palin, you make fun of me, because Sarah Palin espouses the majority, not everything, but the majority of what she says I believe in, and if you're hitting her, you're hitting me. Because she's got the national forum, she's got the national stage, and she's bringing a lot of this up, they attack her. And when they attack her -- now forget the personal, Bristol, the kids and all that -- but when she gets up and says there are going to be death panels and they get up and get all upset, they start making fun, and they start attacking her. Now we got a guy from the New York Times who says we need death panels. What's his name, Krugman? He says we need death panels. 

Q: Death panels is a scare term. What are you worried about death panels for anyway? You have no health insurance. And without health insurance, if you're in that situation, you're going to die, OK? 

A: But if I'm going to die of diabetes or I want to die in my bed, that's the way it was done for years and years. People would just die in their beds, go quietly into the night. And when it was done, bury them in the backyard. I can't even be buried in my backyard. I own the land. Why?

Q: Is that part of the Tea Party platform, to let people be buried in backyards?

A: What happened in the Old West? You got run over by the stagecoach. They threw you in the bed, you would pay the doctor to come check you out, see what you can pay the doctor, make a deal and pay cash. Then your wife would put cold wraps on your head until you passed away or you were crippled for the rest of your life or you walked off with a limp. That's the choice that I make.

Q: I love that.

A: It's contrary to what you're used to hearing. That's the way I want to do it -- and I'll probably be kicking myself in the ass afterward. Look, I've negotiated with Broward General, and I paid it off. No insurance. I had a rotator cuff, and it was hurting, and I went into the office, and I made a deal with them. We negotiated the price. I went in there, and I was like, "Give me a break." Let's talk, let's negotiate. And now I don't owe them anything; I paid it off, no insurance.

Q: How much was it, if I might ask?

A: It came out to about $2,500, and I paid them so much each month. And then one month, I didn't have the money, but I went into the office, and I said. "Look, I don't have the money this month," but the supervisor said, "We appreciate you coming in and telling us you don't have the money. Most people would just ignore us -- but don't worry, I'll give you until next month." And the next month I came in and gave them 25 or 30 dollars extra. I just told them, "I don't have the money, but I'm not hiding from you."

Q: So it was $2,500 for a torn rotator cuff. Did they actually do surgery?

A: No, no, no. They gave me a shot. It's not like torn in half; it's got like a rip. So they gave me a shot for the swelling; that's what's making you hurt. I think I went to physical therapy to do exercises. But I was like, I can do this in my house. I got the things like rubber bands and put them on my door, did the exercises, and I picked myself up at my house.

Q: Well, my hat's off to you on that one. But it doesn't change the fact that Obamacare, as you call it, is really going to affect you. You're going to be one of the people who is going to be forced to buy health insurance.

A: I don't want to buy it. And do you think I should be punished because I don't want to buy it? You think the government should tell me, "You need to buy United States health insurance." Do you think it's constitutional for the government to say, "You need to buy United States government health care"? Forget about go find your own. "You need to buy United States Obamacare, or I'm going to put you in jail, or I'm going to fine the hell out of you. And if you don't pay the fine, you're going to jail." Get this: They are not going to put you in jail because you didn't pay the fine. They're going to do it like child support. You are in contempt of court; we ordered you to pay it; you didn't pay it. Thus, we are putting you in jail because you are in contempt of court, not because you didn't have the money. That's the way they get you in jail.

Q: I don't know about that. [Here's an interview with Obama on the topic.] But do you see the flip side here? The reason for that is that if you don't have health insurance, if you do get hit by that proverbial Mack truck, it will be the United States government that's going to bail you out. People are legally required to have auto insurance too.  

A: Do you know how much they want for health insurance? They wanted $1,500 a month, and that was just for me. I can't pay that.

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Just Sayin
Just Sayin

I know this a$$hole Carrera!  Although I am a member of the Tea Party (Taxed Enough Already) he is NOT one of us!  He sucks off the government then yells that others should not??!!  Really??  I did not realize I was paying for HIS kids!  Do they get FREE lunch too?

He also bitches about illegal immigration...what do you think he does for a living??  He protects ILLEGALS and gets them into this country for their FREE RIDE on taxpayers!  He does discriminate though...he will ONY help Argentinians....yea Gabe sounds like a nice guy...LMAO!!  He is an emabarrasment to the Tea Party!

Joe Goldner
Joe Goldner

IF YOU COULD BUY INSURANCE ACROSS STATE LINES LIKE AUTO INSURANCE THIS WILL BRING THE DOWN THE COST WITH SURE COMPETITION. WE COULD END FAKE LAWSUITS IN TORT REFORM AND THAT WILL ALSO BRING COST DOWN. THOSE TWO ALONE WILL LOWER COST SO IF YOU PAY 1500 PER MONTH YOUR NEW COST WILL BE LESS THEN 500 MOST LIKELY 300 PER MONTH.NOW LETS TRY SOME PREVENTIVE MEDICENE LIKE IF YOU OWN A BUSINESS WITH MORE THEN 5 EMPLOYEES WORKING THERE HOW ABOUT PAID SICK LEAVE THAT WILL ENABLE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE SICK TO TAKE OFF AND PREVENT EVERYONE IN THE WORK PLACE FROM GETTING SICK. THIS WILL SAVE TONS OF MONIES FOR THE EMPLOYER AND WILL ENABLE THE EMPLOYER TO KEEP FUNCTIONING AS A BUSINESS.THIS LAW WILL PREVENT EPIDEMICS, AND WILL LOWER HEALTH CARE COST BY PREVENTING THE SPREAD OF DISEASES AND WILL SAVE LIVES!THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.IN 2012 I AM RUNNING FOR CONGRESS AGAINST DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ AND I WILL BE THERE FOR ALL MY CITIZENS IN MY DISTRICT AND THE COUNTRY.JOE GOLDNER

Fastlaine
Fastlaine

My eyes are bleeding after reading that. So he's against "Obamacare", his kids have government subsidized health insurance and he's waiting for the government to pay for him in case something really bad happens. Yup that sounds about right....

Android Phones
Android Phones

I support Obama’s health care bill except the provision that forces us to buy health insurance. The government should pay for health insurance because many individuals can’t even afford to pay for the minimum car insurance coverage. The local governments already force us to buy car insurance that they should pay for.

Bubbabob
Bubbabob

On MLK day let us all remember, most welfare cheats are white.

therealyaz
therealyaz

Any arrests while i was gone. Including this fruitcake.

Gimmesamore
Gimmesamore

Was this a real interview? Come on BOB, nobody is really this stupid or full of contradictions right? For decadesDems and Repubs have allowed pharmaceutical companies, hospital congloms and insurance companies to set the healthcare market. Not for profit is unknown in the healthcare business. Most people don't understand that Canada's health care system is pretty damn good. One huge difference is that doctors don't make millions per year, but they also don't worry about malpractice ins. Coverage and tort suits are not as rampant. Also Canada doesnt get fucked by pharmaceutical companies because even those based in the US sell their drugs in Canada at pennies on the dollar - you know why, because thats why the market will bear. Here, our own govt. allows a complete fleecing of it's own people. Last week I watched 3 customers ahead of me spend a collective $1800.00 on pills at the pharmacy. They all paid cash and 2 of them were from out of state. Of course 2 were for narcotics (but that's another story). Medical rates are completely inconsistent in this country and not based on what a service actually costs. Instead it's based in rates designed by insurance companies and negotiations between them and the healthcare facility. Because of that, a private payer gets screwed and can pay 2 or even 4 times more for the same procedure as an insured payor; i.e. there is power in numbers. I get client's medical bills reduced everyday and it's amazing what a company will accept when it believes it may get zero. The problem with Obamacare is that it is a drastic change all at once. However, the Repubs always want to protect big business; pharmaceuticals and insurance companies, while the dems don't really care for tort reform. BOTH parties accept political donations like a mofo from them as well, but each put there own spin on why. I feel for those with no insurance, especially those with kids, but these anti Obamacare, TeaBagging, govt benefit accepting people never propose any real solutions. BOB, it seems you spent a good deal of time with this guy-- are there any logically based solutions or ideas flowing from his mouth or just more useless rhetoric?

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

P.S. The non-partisan CBO also proved that tort reform has a negligible effect on the overall cost of healthcare. This tort reform argument is a classic red herring, created by the whores and shills for corporate America to demonize attorneys and deflect attention away from the real issues.

As long as you combine profit and one's health, you will always have a failed system. These companies should be non-profit and everyone in the industry can still be employed.

The only change will be that 25% of their revenues will no longer be spent on advertising--a waste--and the CEOs and those at the top will no longer be making hundreds of millions of dollars.

gimmesamore
gimmesamore

Agreed - I was just highlighting the arguments. I do both Plaintiff and defense PI work, so I see how ins. Companies adjust claims and how providers accept far less than what they charge uninsured patients. It's a shame all the way around.

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

Two thoughts in response. First, it appears to me to be a real interview and yes, there are people this stupid and full of contradictions. We call them middle class conservatives.

Second, all of the credible studies on medical malpractice reform show definitively that medical malpractice awards are a minuscule amount compared to the overall dollars in the healthcare system.

In fact, a study of the 15 largest medical malpractice insurance companies showed that for a period of approximately 10 years, malpractice awards increased 5% while premiums during that same time period increased 123%.

Bottom line: The Doctors--like everyone else--are being gouged by the insurance companies.

Linda
Linda

The Tea Party ranks are chock full of these hypocritical chiselers. Loudly and obnoxiously, Teabaggers fashion themselves as "deserving" recipients of government largesse (Social Security, government-funded health care, federal subsidies, etc.), in stark contrast to those "undeserving" recipients (e.g. illegal immigrants, poor people who receive Medicaid or food stamps), whom they lavish with scorn and contempt.

Curious
Curious

What is Legal about Ilegal?

Anonomyte
Anonomyte

It is hard to believe that Mr. Carrera is an attorney. He sounds like a complete idiot. So happy to learn that there is a government program available to his children. This nonsense he espouses sounds just as nuts as the crazy man in Tuscon.

alexsilcox
alexsilcox

Yeap. In fact, did you know that Currently, many insurance companies do not allow adult children to remain on their parents' plan once they reach 19. Companies cannot do that any more. Search onilne for "Wise Health Insurance" and you can insure your kids if you are in the same boat.

Gator
Gator

This guy reminds me of the Snake Dupree character in the movie Big Trouble.

TheShark
TheShark

It does not compute that this infantile individual is an attorney. The only thing that makes any sense at all is if Nova law school is some kind of scam. If the interviewee is an attorney, this nation is in much deeper trouble than we realize.

TheShark
TheShark

On the other hand, if he can't afford private health insurance for his children and himself, he must not be a very successful attorney so it sounds about right.

Sandie
Sandie

This is all starting to make sense now. He's unsuccessful as an attorney because he's not very intelligent and it shows. His ego can't accept that his failure as an attorney is due to his own incompetence so it must be someone else's fault. Yes, the liberals! Obama! Socialists taking our money and redistributing it! Go Tea Party!

He's in for a real awakening.

Nucky Thompson
Nucky Thompson

Tommy is not even in Mr Rodgers neighborhood right now.

unowho
unowho

Tommys the best QB!!! Not today he played like a certain Dolphin QB (on his best day) LOL

unowho
unowho

Prediction....Jets 24 Patriots 21......Final Score Jets 28 Patriots 21..Thank God now I dont have to hear Patriot gloating at hockey tonite ... Congrats Jets Fan!!!.........60 minutes Tucson shooting...

unowho
unowho

Can the best QB do the IMPOSSIBLE 1:41 I DONT THINK SOOOOOOOO!!!

Nautical Start Tattoos
Nautical Start Tattoos

Very scary to hear the hypocrisy. I couldn't sleep at night knowing that if I got seriously hurt or sick, that I'd then have to worry about paying the bill. This guy argues that "Obamacare" is going to get rid of the private insurance companies, but if we all did as he does, that would get rid of them as well. Let's read more of peoples' fact-less opinions and grab a hold of that for our belief system.

Smudge
Smudge

That's possibly the most shabbily transcribed interview I've ever read on the F'ing Interwebz.

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

Next time, we'll publish it in crayon so you can read it.

Goldilocks
Goldilocks

Gabe, since you have linked Pulp's blog to your own (as MC pointed out), let's hope you read it once in awhile, including these comments. There may be something here that will be of value, as in: you will get some facts that are real, and not just because you like them - but because they are truly true.

Here's one that many people already know. Prevention saves money in the long run. If we prevent disease, preserve our health, we stave off costly illness and treatment (e.g., cancers, diabetes, heart disease). Now, what happens if individuals do *not* prevent disease, get sick and have no health insurance? Glad you asked that question. In many (MANY) cases, the doctor-by-default is called the Emergency Room. Gabe, do you have any idea how costly it is for one person (times millions, for the macro-effect) to rely upon the nation's ERs, and to do so only because their situations have become truly dire? Very costly. Now, you seem to think that hospitals will just pony up to the tab. Where, Gabe, do you think these funds come from? Ready for the answer? It's public dollars. That's right -- we the people already pay for care of indigents and anyone else that uses the ER but is not covered by insurance and doesn't pay.

In fact, as Bob tried to point out to you (and I think ATG made the same point), your kids' KidCare is actually Florida's Medicaid program. That means that Fed dollars, apportioned to the state (other words: my tax dollars) are covering your chldren.

Those facts are good ones to know because they are irrefutably true. If you want to revise your thoughts on this issue, Gabe, we won't hold it against you.

Model Citizen
Model Citizen

This is funny: Carrera's blog on flsentry.com has a link to "New Times on Crooked Broward Politicians". Click on it and it directs you to this particular post about Carrera himself.

Good job, Pulp.

Goldilocks
Goldilocks

Seriously ...If he has type 2 diabetes that he is "managing" through some kind of piecemeal bloodwork and lordy knows what else, if anything (diet? exercise?) ...Risk of it getting worse ... potential blindness, loss of limbs, other complications ...This ignorant fellow may, like so many others like him, get the bitch-slap of reality when he begins to "get" what it takes to care for conditions that may have been preventable, where ongoing healthcare and the monitoring that goes with it might have avoided that which could, in the long run and on the downside, cause loss of his assets, jeapardizing the kids' educations, other impact on daily living not to mention health (blindness, amputation). It's another example of "but for the grace of ..." Those who do not believe in the "evils" of healthcare - or "Obamacase" typically have not had to suffer the impacts of the system's realities.

Going back to a statement I made a few blogs ago (about tea-baggers and guns ... and how they could be the person next to you at Walgreens or Publix), my point then, as now is this: the LOOK JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. Take a look around you. Just try to separate wheat from chaff.

Model Citizen
Model Citizen

And why does his insurance cost $1,500 per month?! Because he has a pre-existing condition? Doesn't "Obamacare" prohibit the charging of higher premiums for those with pre-existing conditions?

Goldilocks
Goldilocks

Yes, once it kicks in.

Slightly different angle, same issue (while I'm here in your reply box): If he believe that, for example, Argentina should take of its own who are here ... shouldn't *we* take care of *our* own who are here? That would be the restuvus.

Model Citizen
Model Citizen

You are ON FIRE today, Goldilocks. Great point.

GhostOfMcLovin
GhostOfMcLovin

this blog is turning into the Huffington Pulp

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

Raise your game Bluto. You're defending this fucking idiot? WTF is wrong with you? Either address the points made here today or do the honorable thing and concede.

This guy is both a hypocrite and a moron and he's been exposed.

This is where you conservatives lose all credibility, when you defend this bullshit.

Guest
Guest

Why would he deny others who feel differently to be able to have the insurance they would need? This is an ignorant selfish man with a moral blindspot. I'll never understand what makes a man like this tick.

Goldilocks
Goldilocks

Worse than that. He's espousing how the system works, making judgments about good/bad "Obamacare" impacts, but doesn't have a clue of how the system works. "Doctors inflate their prices to the insurance companies." Wrong. Insurance companies control rates paid as "reasonable and customary" or prenegotiated (to those in-plan). It is inuriating to have folks levy influence on others in areas where they are so in the dark, but believe themselves to be in the know. Wrong, wrong and WRONG.

Duh
Duh

If you get hit by a mack truck the vehicle insurance will be footing the bill for your injuries and not the US government. What he should worry about is illness. What would he do re a major illness.

Nucky Thompson
Nucky Thompson

You are certainly milking the Tea party angle . Pulp, any links between the local Tea party and Big Sugar. ? Speaking of which I was in Clewiston yesterday. It looked a lot better than the last time I was there , Must be Debbie Villegas'influence.

unowho
unowho

Off Topic.....ROTFLMFAO There is a story in the Herald by Larry Barszewski about activists and their PC inparticular Mr Timmy(wimp out)Stevens who is retiring his Acts of Sedition blog seems nobody appreciates him in Deerfield Beach especially old lady Poitier who refers to him as a nasty blogger.One word Timmy "Attitude" check yourself into Arrogant Assholes Anonymous and get Rehabilitated if that is possible!!!......What was really strange is not one word on our Pulpmeister something personal.???....WTF ...I guess Bob Norman and the Pulpsters are in a league of their own!!!.........GO JETS!!!

Christy
Christy

Sorry unowho...Go Patriots!!

unowho
unowho

The Brady Bunch and Pittsburgh Steelers have won enough Super Bowls ...GO JETS (underdog) besides most of my Hockey Buddies are Patriot Fans!!! Jets 24 ...Patriots 21

Christy
Christy

Patriots 31 Jets 21

Tommy's the best QB

Model Citizen
Model Citizen

Blogger, please!

unowho
unowho

#1..??? "GO JETS" ??? OOPS!!! ....#2... you are (were) a Timmy fan ???#3..Nuff Said ??? #4..1,2 and 3???

Model Citizen
Model Citizen

None of the above, just being silly. Have a nice day.

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

More Irony!

As an tea bat, I guarantee you that Carrera opposes any comprehensive amnesty legislation, the passage of which would be a boondoggle for his immigration law practice.

So, once again, we have a middle class conservative supporting ideas that are directly adversarial to his personal interests.

A comprehensive immigration bill-- to include amnesty-- would directly benefit Carrera and his family. In fact, we taxpayers would no longer be responsible to partially pay for his kid's healthcare. Hey Gabe: Get new Parts for your head!

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