Jared Lee Loughner's Lunatic Rantings Prove That Politically He's...

It's amazing how people are trying to figure out Tucson shooter Jared Lee Loughner's political philosophy.

He's a registered Republican, they say (hoax). He's a liberal pot smoker (according to a former classmate who didn't know him well). He was predisposed to right-wing rants that echo Tea Party rhetoric and paranoia (The Guardian).

So which is it?

Well, I've pored over Loughner's writings on the internet and am pleased to announce that I've solved the mystery.

Jared Lee Loughner was registered as an Independent (true), didn't vote in 2010, and, in political terms, identifies mostly with absolute batshit. He's so crazy it hurts. He recently wrote the following passage on someone's MySpace page. It comes after he rambles about burning the flag because "the flag in the film is unknown":

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Loughner: Crazier than he looks.
You shouldn't be afraid of the stars. There's a new bird on my right shoulder. The beak is two feet and lime green. The rarest bird on earth, there's no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body. It's with one large red eye with a light blue iris. The bird feet are the same as a woodpecker. This new bird and there's only one, the gender is not female or male. The wings of this bird are beautiful; 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle that you could die for. If you can see this bird then you will understand. You think this bird is able to chat about a government?
I want you to imagine a comet or meteoroid coming through the atmosphere.   

This is just the kind of thing you get over and over from Loughner. The only thing close to a real issue are his ramblings about currency and the lack of a gold standard. I suppose that's more common among those in the right -- you know, the gold and guns guys (come to think of it, Glenn Beck talks about gold a lot, but then he's getting paid to sell it). Throw in the fact that he tried to join the military and was a gun owner and you'd have to say he sounds more right-wing than left. But I'm pretty confident that all of this is only further proof of his

severe batshit leanings. Here's more evidence:


Firstly, the current government officials are in power for their currency, but I'm informing you for your new currency! If you're treasurer of a new money system, then you're responsible for the distributing of a new currency. We now know -- the treasurer for a new money system, is the distributor of the new currency. As a result, the people approve a new money system which is promising new information that's accurate, and we truly believe in a new currency. Above all, you have your new currency, listener?

Secondly, my hope -- is for you to be literate! If you're literate in English grammar, then you comprehend English grammar. The majority of poeple, who reside in District 8, are illiterate -- hilarious. I don't control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.

Thirdly, I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen.

In conclusion, my ambition -- is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I'm conscience dreaming! Thank you!

As grim and awful as this shooting has been, I couldn't help but laugh at the end there. "In conclusion..." All this insane rambling and then he finishes sounding like he's finishing a thesis. In his last video, he devolves not only into meaningless words but meaningless numbers.

My Final Thoughts: Jared Lee Loughner!

Most people, who read this text, forget in the next 2 second!

The population of dreamers in the United States of America is less than 5%!

If 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,098,601,978,618 is the year in B.C.E. then the previous year is 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,098,601,978,619 B.C.E.

987,123,478,961,876,341,234,098,601,978,618 is the year in B.C.E.

Therefore, the previous year of 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,098,601,978,619 B.C.E.

If B.C.E. years are unable to start then A.D.E. years are unable to begin.

B.C.E. years are unable to start.

Thus, A.D.E. years are unable to begin.

If A.D.E. is endless in year then the years in A.D.E. don't cease.

A.D.E. is endless in year.

Therefore, the years in A.D.E. don't cease.

And he goes on and on about things before he decides to discuss the topic of terrorism:  

If I define terrorist then a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon. I define terrorist. This, a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon. If you call me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem. You call me a terrorist. Thus, the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem. Every United States Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenis is receiving one mini bible before the tests. Jared Loughner is a United States Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests. I didn't write a belief on my Army application, and the recruiter wrote on the application; None. The majority of citizens in the United States of America have never read the United States of America's Constitution. You don't have to accept the federalist laws. Nonetheless, read the United States of America's Constituion to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws. You're literate, listener? If the property owners and government officials are no longer in ownership of their land and laws from a revolution then the revolutionary's from the revolution are in control of the land and laws. The property owners and government officials are no longer in ownership of their land and laws from a revolution. Thus, the revolutionary's from the revolution are in control of the land and laws.

In conclusion, reading the second United States Constitution, I can't trust the current government because of the ratifications: The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar.

No! I won't pay debt with a currency that's not backed by gold and silver!

No! I won't trust in God!

What's government if words don't have meaning?

Yes, and what are Loughner's politics when his own words don't have meaning? There's just nothing there. Want to find out what he thinks through the books he read? Good luck with that.  Here's the favorite books he listed on MySpace: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard of Oz, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill a Mockingbird, We the Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through the Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man and the Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.

I could try to wade through those but I will say one theme running through those books is the plight of the individual versus government. Pulp, by the way, is a mock detective novel by Charles Bukowski. I need to read that.

In conclusion, Jared Lee Loughner makes no sense. He never will make any sense. I think he's the craziest mass killer we've ever seen. In conclusion, if anyone tries to tell you they know Loughner's political bent at the time of the shootings, ask him where he got the giant bird with a two-foot lime green beak on his shoulder.

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GABE the BABE
GABE the BABE

Hey Bob...your blog is off on this subject but I read in your interview that a journalist uses restraint: Remeber this:

Looking back on it now, one thing you wished you knew before you started the blog? (question to Bob Norman)

(Bob's Response): Well, the terrible truth is that I’ve made a lot of mistakes on the blog, and what I’ve learned is that you need to use restraint. It’s so easy to push that button. It’s actually taught me a lot about how wrong everyone can be, and how you need to apply the old journalistic standards on every post.

Bob, your a good writer dude but you blew on this one.....

Dave E
Dave E

Westboro Baptist Church protesting at Christina Green's funeral - Truth or Consequences Bob Norman?

glass slipper
glass slipper

"Gabrielle Giffords is the victim of a debased political culture..."

Would this be the same debased political culture that bailed out the terrorist banking criminals and are enforcing austerity on the people against their will? That waged war on countries based on lies?....sending young men and women to proportionally kill more innocent people than the 'enemy'? That same enemy who were radicalised by American taxpayers money funnelled through Pakistan by the CIA so as to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan! Who honour the dead that return from war but almost hold in contempt the maimed and the mentally disturbed? Who have condoned sanctions that have killed millions of innocent people across the world? Who condone the beating of our children when they have the courage to rise up against extortionate college fees?

Yes our political culture is debased alright!! And people across the world have had enough. We know who the REAL winners are of all the wars and turmoil for the past century or more - the private bankers and their corporations - the corruptors of men.

And as long as our debased politicians keep protecting these people while openly penalising the majority, who just want to get on with trying to live decent lives, then I think there will be a lot more terrible atrocities like the one in this article, an external symptom of a society enslaved by psychopaths.

Of course we're not helping ourselves either as we've plastered ourselves in our own silly political, religious and social labels - condemning others that don't wear the same ones we do. As if the trials of life itself were not enough to contend with, we complicate it with all of this superficial nonsense as if it defined who we are.

Surely we've only one common enemy - corruption itself. And that's an easy one to spot - it usually starts when one man assumes authority over another.

James
James

Bukowski is great. Check out Women. Hillarious stuff!

Ozaymanidius
Ozaymanidius

It doesn't matter what his poliitcal leaning are. He is probably schizophrenic.

glass slipper
glass slipper

Arizona Shooter Jared Loughner is Jewish

by James Buchanan

The man who shot 19 people in Arizona, killing six and severely wounding Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, is Jewish according to an interview by a reporter from Mother Jones magazine. The Mother Jones article notes “about eight hours before he allegedly killed six people and wounded 14, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), in Tucson—Jared Lee Loughner phoned an old and close friend with whom he had gone to high school and college. The friend, Bryce Tierney, was up late watching TV, but he didn’t answer the call. When he later checked his voice mail, he heard a simple message from Loughner: ‘Hey man, it’s Jared. Me and you had good times. Peace out. Later.’ That was it. But later in the day, when Tierney first heard about the Tucson massacre, he had a sickening feeling: ‘They hadn’t released the name, but I said, ‘Holy sh-t, I think it’s Jared that did it.’ ‘ Tierney tells Mother Jones in an exclusive interview that Loughner held a years-long grudge against Giffords and had repeatedly derided her as a ‘fake.’ ….Tierney believes that Loughner was very interested in pushing people’s buttons—and that may have been why he listed Hitler’s Mein Kampf as one of his favorite books on his YouTube page. (Loughner’s mom is Jewish, according to Tierney.)” Loughner also listed the Communist Manifesto as one of his favorite books.

There was a speedy attempt by the left-wing media to portray Loughner as a right-wing lunatic even though other statements by people familiar with Loughner described him as a leftist.

So a mentally ill, left-wing Jew shoots a Congresswoman and the mainstream media tries to pin the blame on the Tea Party, on right-wing White Gentiles and on the pro-White movement. This should be a good reminder to everyone to be suspicious of the mainstream media.

Christy
Christy

Textbook Paranoid Schizophrenic who was in need of meds/hospitalization.

ExPostFacto
ExPostFacto

Has anyone looked into the shooter's relationship with his parents? That might be a good place to start instead of trying to figure out what his political leanings were....just sayin....

Midnight Rider
Midnight Rider

"Someone needs to have a chat with the bears and offer them free salmon if they kill Sarah Palin in Alaska" Cory Matthews

Christy
Christy

In Males Schizophrenia peaks at age 22 from what I read. Any Mental Health Peeps want to chime in here?

Christy
Christy

Isn't there a type of schizophrenia that emerges in early adulthood? (Age 19-22)?

Garrett
Garrett

He kind of looks like Chaz!

Red Sonja
Red Sonja

What really amazes me is that the liberal press just missed one of the greatest opportunities to push healthcare. Instead they drew party lines and blah blah blah blah blah before the injured were even being treated.

Call me names all you want. I believe ignorant cow, hypocrite, dangerous were among some of them. LOL

Midnight Rider
Midnight Rider

More friendly words from Barack Obama!

"Argue with neighbors, Get in their face!" "If you get hit, we will punch back twice a...s hard""I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry""Punish your enemies"

Midnight Rider
Midnight Rider

"IF THEY BRING A KNIFE TO THE FIGHT, WE BRING A GUN" Barak Hussein Obama

But it is JK, Palin, Limbaugh, Beck...anybody but a liberal!

Odds are this guy NEVER listened to JK, Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, but most likely listened to Obama.

HYPOCRITES all of you!

Red Sonja
Red Sonja

Thanks Bob. Mental Health in America should be addressed moreso than gun laws over this because I don't see a problem with a sane person owning a gun and mentally ill persons should have adequate access to healthcare. This schizophrenic should have been handled when he was thrown out of college. Instead he was told to get a mental health check before he returned to school. He never returned. Someone dropped the ball somewhere. He should have been baker acted and assessed and not released until properly medicated or treated. Authorities in that area were well aware of his irrational behavior and that is putting it mildly.

I expect to be called names again today for posting my opinion. That's fine. It won't change my vote. Nor will it change the votes of any others. It may by its merit reinforce political inclinations. So thanks to all of you.

Gimmesamore
Gimmesamore

Insanity defense like a mofo - this guy makes Ted K. seem completely logical and sane. He will spend the rest of his life in a psych ward.

Guest
Guest

In Venezuela the Government has rewritten the constitution, destroyed the press, trampled civil rights, confiscated private property. However, it is a democracy because 51% of the population has decided that they can exploit the other 49% of the population. This is all justified under the heading of "majority rules". This is exactly where this country is heading. With each new emeergency we support laws for the "other people". In the name of expediency. Sorry.

So yes tragedies are gong to happen. I am not condoning violence but I understand its underpinnings.

unowho
unowho

Thanks Goldilocks ,MC and Bum ......For the third time Mr Loonie Laughner,Go Fuck yourself with a Chainsaw you unremorsefull piece of trash!!!,,,,,And may Dead Norm and Gang piss on your fried body once you arrive in hell.....!!! ....(.MM3 is my mentor)

Zigytwo
Zigytwo

unless he thought he was shooting spacemen or something like that, i believe, in the criminal system he would be legaly sane. if a person knows right from wrong and can appreciate the consequences of his acts he is sane under criminal law. he bought the pistol, he loaded it, pointed and fired it, tried to reload, these ar e acts of a person who appreciates the consequences of his actions. im not saying he isnt wacko but, it seems, a valid argument could n be made that ha is ready for old sparky.

Red Sonja
Red Sonja

As inflammatory as the accusations are, which by the way so are some of the postings in this blog sometimes just as nasty as Kaufman, there is the the chance blogs get shut down because of a change in our democracy. So when going down this road don't be surprised if you and your rights also get thrown out with the bathwater. That is the point people are missing. If they want to cut their own nose off to spite their face then more power to them. At least if that happens Virgil Starkwell will have to stand on a street corner screaming at cars because he cannot blog.

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

He didn't blow anything Babe. You just don't comprehend the nuance of his position, that a call to arms by a public official or radio host has no place in a democratic society.

No one will ever know what motivated this nut job, but to think that all of this violent rhetoric--most of it coming from the Right-- has no effect on society is to deny reality.

Homework for Babe: Re-read the open letter and learn the distinction.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Why do you refer to him as "left wing"? Because he's Jewish? I know a lot of right wing Jews.

Also, what "mainstream media" outlets tried to pin the blame on the Tea Party? Can you post a link to one of those stories?

Linda
Linda

Giffords is also Jewish

Pineystride
Pineystride

This guy is clearly schizophrenic, a medical condition which has nothing to do with your relationship with your parents. I'm sure his parents are devasted and horrified.

skydove
skydove

According to reputable published reports a couple of days ago, Loughner had been close to his parents. No time frame was given, however, and according to what we think we know about schizophrenia, the child may have been normal and the teenager may have passed, as "going through a phase." Or he may have moved out around the time his symptoms started to manifest. It's also possible, given today's privacy concerns, that the parents didn't know the school had told their son to get help or not come back; the school might have communicated with the student only.

As it stands now, we don't know what the parents knew and how long they'd known it, nor whether they'd tried to persuade their son to see a professional. Loughner isn't a minor; if he chose to keep away from his parents and, as Goldilocks suggested, there isn't a law like the Baker Act in Arizona, their options would have been limited to moves that perhaps were way outside their comfort zone. Sadly for so many, there won't be a do-over.

Red Sonja
Red Sonja

I'm interested in that myself. No news on the parents yet. Did they even let the feds in their house?

GABE the BABE
GABE the BABE

pot makes ya paranoid regardless so go figure....

Red Sonja
Red Sonja

He peaked in early adulthood.

Red Sonja
Red Sonja

Don't know what the norm is for mental illness but Charles Manson is a paranoid schizophrenic and he was killing animals as a boy. Prepuberty.

Goldilocks
Goldilocks

Typically and generalizing: all mental illnesses. Kind of a continuum. But yes, early adulthood typically.

Red Sonja
Red Sonja

He was listening to only the voices in his own head. Too bad he was never officially diagnosed. My guess is he was a paranoid schizophrenic. The truth is with that disease anything could have set him off that had nothing to do with any imagery or visualization. Sure would like to see what his parents have to say or family members. He may have been showing signs of mental illness in the home before puberty. Or even if his homelife exacerbated the illness.

Goldilocks
Goldilocks

Red -- If you have ever had a mentally ill person enter your life, then you would realize that this unexpected transformation is not something someone close to him might realize - and accept or even understand - right off the bat. Those who are closest to him may have had the most glaring clues, but are in the toughest position to recognize signs with any degree of clinical objectivity, especially if it was a first time "break" (as in: psychotic break).

Next, I want to point out that the line between the sane and the insane is not always clear, is VERY VERY FRAGILE, and is the perfect example of the adage: there but for the grace of god go I.

Finally, as far as Baker Act application goes (and I believe that the Baker Act is solely a FL term, though other states have other names for similar identification) -- the standard is "of danger to self and/or others". For whatever reason, the college or anyone else did not "call it", probably b/c they did not see that degree of damage in him. And please bear in mind that such a standard does not define mental illness, but rather is the standard for an involuntary hospitalization.

GhostOfMcLovin
GhostOfMcLovin

Ted Kennedy? I mean he was batshit, but even a staunch R like me wouldn't say that :-)

Red Sonja
Red Sonja

This would have never happened if he had been properly treated for his mental health. He was screaming for help and everybody chose to ignore the signs. All the information we are getting now is that he had been deteriorating at a rapid pace. Well where was the intervention? Not sure if he was ever bakered but he should have been and if he ever had been why was he out? I can't believe the school didn't baker him. They just sent him on his way to be someone else's problem. Unfortunately for everyone is was a huge problem.

unowho
unowho

Goldilocks (Genius) ......Thumbs Up ;-)

Red Sonja
Red Sonja

Sure would like to know who the second guy is. They need to show photos of his parents to compare to the guy caught on the video still shot. How did they tie the other guy to this event? I haven't heard. Was he just near him? Did he drive him? Or was he just leaving the scene during the forray?

ExPostFacto
ExPostFacto

Virgil doesn't care about his rights as long as Obama pays for him to get his feet scraped

glass slipper
glass slipper

Figure it out for yourself:

Mother Jones magazine

ExPostFacto
ExPostFacto

and what does that have to do with the cost of eggs?

ExPostFacto
ExPostFacto

BULLSHIT.....people just don't become schitzo or whatever you want to call it.....something happened in this person's childhood that created some major anger and the posted article and the latest news reports regarding the parents do nothing, but suggest just that. Why aren't they speaking to anyone???? Maybe they're to effing embarrassed of the way they brought up their son to say anything........Oh nevermind, it must have been Sarah's fault................

Gene1720
Gene1720

Guess I should have been more specific.....What was his childhood like? Was he raised in a two parent home? Was he abused? Was he loved? Something happened in this kid's childhood that caused him to go "batshit"

ExPostFacto
ExPostFacto

the "other guy" was just a taxi driver who delivered his fare to the location

GABE the BABE
GABE the BABE

they ruled him out......the loco acted alone

Goldilocks
Goldilocks

Posted too soon -- not to totally downplay the environmental. They frequently contribute to stressors that can be a tipping point.

skydove
skydove

From the link posted by Anonymous, it sounds like the parents went overboard in isolating the whole family from the neighbors. So far the reason for this isn't generally known, but it's hard to avoid the conclusion that they're a strange pair. What we don't know is whether the condition is congenital.

Many people survive eccentric parents and enforced loneliness as children without such disastrous results. Maybe Loughner's childhood distressed him to the point of vulnerability to out-of-control mental illness. Born or pushed over the edge? Who knows?

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