Charlie Crist to Scott Rothstein: "We Love You"

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Former Gov. Charlie Crist was apparently a little closer to Scott Rothstein than we knew.

Or maybe not. They blew out the candles on Crist's birthday cake a couple of years ago after giving the governor $52,000 (a grand for each candle).

Before the disbarred Rothstein's Ponzi scheme imploded, Rothstein and the governor were in regular contact. One thing about Rothstein, he always liked to be on the cutting edge of technology, and he had a gadget called Simulscribe that automatically transcribed all his voice-mails left at the office.  

There are hundreds of transcribed voice-mails; I've obtained a sampling of the actual documents. Inside see a voice-mail left by Crist -- who calls himself Rothstein's "favorite Greek Governor" -- just days before the Ponzi imploded and Rothstein was exposed as a fraud. 

Here's a transcribed voice mail that Crist left for Rothstein on the evening of October 27, 2009, just a few days before the Ponzi story broke here and after Rothstein had already fled in the Gulfstream V to Morocco. 

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Remember, this is only one of the communiques. The quirks of the Simulscribe program gives them an extra bit of strangeness, sometimes laughs. But they definitely shed a lot of light on his relationships with his business partners, politicians, etc.

Here's another one. This one I left in the explanation for the question marks in the text.

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​And one more for now. I wonder if he thought he was talking to Dan Marino (there's a voice-mail from the quarterback too):

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78 comments
Ddean
Ddean

Money and BS walk together, it seems!

unowho
unowho

Let me rephraze that comment: Stealers stole that one on a fluke fumble and Gay TD return...Not that there is anything wrong with that)

unowho
unowho

Stealers stole that one on a fluke fumble TD!!! "GO PACKERS"

unowho
unowho

Packers and Jets Super Bowl 45........IMHO

Guest
Guest

The Cheese Heads are going to the Super Bowl.Now we the the Jets to go too.Go Jets!

Hellvis
Hellvis

Please dont ever run that picture again,,,its too weird! or any pics of Ken Keechel either. He has a fake smile and is a grown man with a little boys haircut that makes him look gay!

unowho
unowho

Da Bears 31 Packers 24........Jets 34 Steelers31 ..........IMHO

Guest
Guest

Ass Kiss....Someone eager to please another person out of desperation by paying compliments and other pathetic stuff.The title fits......If Charlie Crist ever goes into politics again he will not have my vote. He's a phony. "Scott you are amazing" Scott who?

Steve-O
Steve-O

Rumor is, Charlie Crist was spotted this morning shirtless on the terrace at Club Space.

unowho
unowho

Virgie Did you see the brawl on the ice Flyers and my hometown Senators ? Even the goalies were dancin!!! "Old Time Hockey Lives" ......LOL

Gimmesamore
Gimmesamore

PULP - what's the backstory on the timing of your first access to these simulscribes? During christ's last political run, there was some doubt, denials and downplay relative to his ties to Rothstein? Now, when it won't really damage christ's career, these simulscribes come up.....

Either way, that stuff is cool. Never have to listen to voicemails -

Ethostao
Ethostao

Pulp - story in today's NY Daily News. Crist's name surfaces in a story about this past week's mob-related arrests. Interesting.

http://nydn.us/eNo612

BoneHard
BoneHard

Listen to me Senor PULP, give it up. Unless you have some good sh*t about Rothstein, then forgetaboutit! Who cares about Crist kissing the ass of SR a year or two ago. Let us know when the American Greed story will be on, and then we'll have something to talk about.

BTW: All the best in the New Year!

unowho
unowho

Skydove I believe Abramofff is out of prison in the pizza business.....I read the Judge for the Boulis killings wants to speed up the trial of the three POS mobsters. who gunned dowh Mr Boulis in 2001......."This case is going to have to take priority in your schedules"...Judge Holmes told the lawyers... "Ive got these..."GENTLEMEN" sitting in jail"

JohnRodstrom
JohnRodstrom

Why didn't Charlie want to leave the Fraternity?

Because he didn't want to leave his greek brothers behind.

Gatorfl
Gatorfl

I can't recall a politician who fell off the map as fast as Charlie. Morgan & Morgan? That fat bastard ambulance chaser has been the laughing stock of Central FL for years, especially after the DUI in the mid 90's. A shame, too because Charlie could have been a contendah.

Guest
Guest

Good Morning All!Do not be fooled into believing that because a man is rich he is necessarily smart. There is ample proof to the contrary.Julius Rosenwald

Anon33024
Anon33024

Lobbyists should be outlawed altogether. They just trade on money and cronyism at taxpayer's expense. More crooked deals are done because of these go-between leeches. Why can't we rid ourselves of them?

Anon33024
Anon33024

Pulp, please post when you're going to be on WLRN (or anywhere else) so we can listen. I caught part of the broadcast, but would have liked to hear it all. Anyway, my request is for you to do an expose on Ron Book, similar to the Mitch Caesar articles that ran recently. Many of the folks need to know more about how he operates, a little slimy I hear. Okay, a BIG slimy.

Anannymus
Anannymus

Charlie looks like he's going to plant one right on Rothstein's lips in that photo above. Is everybody who sucked up to this guy a little embarrassed today?

Christy
Christy

Ironically

Nov 24, 2009 (The date of the Versace Mention by Crist) is the actual day

", Gov. Charlie Crist suspended Rothstein from the Fourth District Court of Appeal Judicial Nominating Commission."

Anon33024
Anon33024

Rothstein and Ritter both thought they were headed to the glitter of Washington, DC. Now one's in a hellhole pit for life...

and the other one got 50 years in the pen.

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

I did not, but I am sure I will see it soon. Here is a great site for hockey fans which I check out occassionally. www.hockeyfights.com. Add this to your favorites list.

Pulp
Pulp

All I can say is I got them well after the election was over, gimme.

Christy
Christy

Good Find Ethostao

"Maragni claimed that he could get former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist to reduce the sentence of a relative of a cooperating witness with the help of a contact he described as a lawyer, according to sources and court papers.

"I don't have any idea what this is about or who this guy [Maragni] is," Crist told the Daily News in a telephone interview.

"The allegations that you've described I've never heard of before," Crist said.

Maragni was secretly taped discussing the scheme with the cooperating witness, who gave the gangster $20,000 in November as the first of three planned payments.

After Maragni said he could not deliver the bribe money to his contact for several weeks, the witness asked for the money back and Maragni agreed, court papers state."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new...

Guest
Guest

Here's when the American Greed about Rothsten will be on.

02/23/2011: American Greed #42 – Scott Rothstein: A high-flying Florida lawyer steals billions to fuel his lifestyle. This should be very interesting. I hope they mention Bob Norman.

DeathFrog3
DeathFrog3

Judge Holmes is a good judge. She is right these guys have been in jail for 3+ years without being convicted. What if they are found to be not guilty. The case against these guys is weak. I would not be surprised to see one or more walked on it. The alleged shooter is dead and there is second hand testimony to the conspiracy. I dont know whether or not they did it but the case is not a slam dunk and two of these guys have been locked up a long time. Too long if they didn't do it.

Someone said Justice delayed is justice denied.... well.... It is definitely been delayed

skydove
skydove

Trying this again, unowho -- I wrote you immediately acknowledging that you were right about Abramoff and adding the colloquial French phrase for "What was I thinking?" This elicited a "just a moment" message from Disqus maybe 20 minutes ago. I guess the program is still rooting around Babel Fish.

Fakejohnrodstrom
Fakejohnrodstrom

I meant to write fake john rodstrom. but then again he's an asshole anyways so f it.

unowho
unowho

You mean Blobbyist right??? Agreed 100%

skydove
skydove

It's certainly true that many lobbyists "trade on money and cronyism" at our expense and that "crooked deals" abound as the result of the activities of "these go-between leeches" (a marvelously restrained characterization). It's unlikely that Congress would ever introduce legislation to outlaw lobbyists altogether, however. Not only would it cut many lawmakers off from an important source of income, but any such law would trigger insurmountable First Amendment issues, and would have done even before the Citizens United decision. That leaves the matter up to an informed and vigilant population, served by resources such as this one, with the goal highlighting clear evidence of wrongdoing, one perp at a time.

unowho
unowho

14 -7 Packers winning Bears just scored TD but have no defence today....You would think bears would play better in cold weather...LOL

unowho
unowho

Df3 my friend, I have not heard from our buddy in quite a while...I have Emailed him a few times is everything OK ?

unowho
unowho

I have a feeling they are responsible for the GB murders and will be found guilty,either way the world is a safer place with them behind bars!!!

unowho
unowho

Were you thinking Madoff close...LOL

DeathFrog3
DeathFrog3

Virgil

The debate I m speaking of brought up some great points, The possession of firearms is regulated already. For instance the possession of firearms by a convicted felon is a crime, short barrelled shotguns, machine guns etc.

One of the speakers commented how arbitrary those rules are, for instance Martha Stewart a convicted felon cannot possess a firearm where as a person who commits a violent offense but pleas to a misdemeanor is eligible to possess a firearm.

I agree with common sense regulations. Criminals whackos and those addicted to drugs/alcohol should not have guns. I still believe that responsible gun ownership has never caused an unlawful injury or death.

A great example with limiting magazine capacity and assault weapons was during the Brady Bill era. That did not limit the use of AK 47's in drug shootings in Ft Lauderdale. I worked several cases that were tied to drug dealers. The only thing those laws prevented were keeping those weapons out of law abiding peoples hands.

If I were king, I would empty the prisons of drug possession offenders, move non-violent offenders to work release centers to make room for violent offenders and actually put criminals in prison.

DeathFrog3
DeathFrog3

I was watching C-Span yesterday and there was a harvard law professor advocating public campaign finance and his proposal made the most sense of anyone's I've heard.

Basically he said that each person would/could contribute up to $50 and designate to where each campaign the money could go. That would eliminate the lobbyist control, and would eliminate the first ammendment argument (your money would only go to campaigns as you see fit). So even with the Citizens' Court ruling that a corporation is a person, with a $50 limit the corporation / lobbyist no longer has a louder megaphone than an individual. It would eliminate the outragous campaign expenses that we see even in local races.

I see his proposal as the panacea of campaign finance reform.

There was also a very good debate from the CATO Institute on the DC v Heller decision.

Goldilocks
Goldilocks

The sad truth, beautifully stated.

DeathFrog3
DeathFrog3

The world may be safer with them in jail but that's not how our justice system works. You have to be convicted to have your liberty seized for extended periods of time. 3 years is unreasonable.

I could name a million things that would make the world safer, that does not make them just.

unowho
unowho

oops... GB murder ....(singular)

DeathFrog3
DeathFrog3

@ Goldilocks

Abstinence is not the only education available to kids to curb teen pregnancy. Girls and boys have measures they can take outside of abstinence to prevent pregnancy. Honesty for one. Sex feels good, if done right it feels great. We are "wired" to have sexual desires.

IMHO preaching abstinence as a cure for pregnancy is akin to preaching starviation to obese people. Its not going to work. We have a psychological need to have sex. Teens do too. I think the professional mental health people we have in the crowd will attest that sexual contact (even among teens) is required for a healthy life.

So I teach my kids (male and female) that sexual desires are healthy. Dont be afraid of them. I also teach them to take responsibility for their action and that if they are going to engage in sexual behavior, use protection.

So no, teaching abstinence only is not a cure for pregnancy, no more than taking guns out of the hands of lawful, responsible gun owners hands will prevent unlawful violence. However, being honest with kids, teaching them about the realities of sex and what happens when you are responsible and irresponsible you can reduce teen pregnancies.

Goldilocks
Goldilocks

DF3, on the teen pregnancy issue ... Do you need a reminder of the prominant role (and proportion of FUNDING) that went into abstinence "education"? A little research will take you down memory lane (not to mention outcomes of funded programs). And feminists who look at equal responsibility of adults also understand that the stage of development - physiologically, cognitively and emotionally -- are not the same as adults. In other words, not a great comparison.

DeathFrog3
DeathFrog3

@ MC

We can and have done things about teen pregnancy, By the way as much as I'd like to blame boys, it takes two to tango, as the saying goes. Why marginalize the girl's role? Gloria Alred and feminists around the world would not be happy.

The fact is being responsible (Insert pronoun here), would make our society way better than inacting any law. As much as we want to "Progress" I think we out smart ourselves. Teach people to be good citizens, reward good citizenship, restore morality. Those things will do more to cure our sociatal ills than anything else.

A great example are shows like survivor and the apprentice. The winners are celebrated for deceit (which is euphamized as tact and wit). It is that same deceit we are seeing in our political leaders today. They use tact and wit when disguising relationships with lobbyists. It is why they walk off the dias to "Use the restroom" when a vote comes up that benefits them, yet they dont want to disclose it. I know this game. Most people in here know it too.

Those are the battles we need to wage. I would work my ass off for any campaign even if its a candidate that I dont agree with politically if he/she just admitted that stuff happens, calls the opponent out for it, and doesn't do that stuff themselves.

UGH! I am so frustrated!

Model Citizen
Model Citizen

"responsible gun ownership has never caused an unlawful injury or death."

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Yes, and responsible teen males never caused unwanted pregnancies. We can't do anything about hormones but guns?

Virgil Starkwell
Virgil Starkwell

The Republican party of the 70's, 80's--and to a lesser extent--the 90's were pragmatists when it came to gun control. They would often support common sense legislation on gun control.

But then again, that was the party of Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Sr., Dole, Nunn, William F. Buckley, George Will, etc:

Now, it is the party of Palin, Bachmann, West, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc:

I sincerely hope they can pull themselves out of the sewer one day. Far too many intellectual lightweights are now elevated in the GOP. That never would have happened even 20 years ago. Sarah Palin would not have even been qualified to be Reagan's secretary.

Two years ago, people were voting for her to become Vice President.

Frightening!

skydove
skydove

It makes sense in theory, and because tiny contributions would be allowed, the poor wouldn't be prevented from participating. But unless their contributions were harvested at least on the scale of Howard Dean's 50-state vision, the amounts, and the opinions behind them, wouldn't count for much. One person sacriices to give two bucks to a presidential candidate he really believes in. A lobbyist, his wife, their kids, and sundry others have their names on contributions in the full $50 amount to the presidential candidate, to the people running for Congress, &c&c. Maybe I'm being too quick to pick nits here. I don't know how the proportions work out. A panacea sure would be nice.

I'm going to put my head in the sand and ignore the Cato debate. Scalia's opinion in Heller was dangerously lame in spots. Much as I hate to say it, I don't see it holding. In the Journal today, Peggy Noonan suggested a stopgap measure that would ban high-capacity magazines like on Loughner's Glock, which no civilian has any need for. I don't think that's any slippery slope. But I also am not sure it will save the Second Amendment as presently construed.

skydove
skydove

Sad, yes, but not hopeless. With luck and persistence, it won't be too long before Abramoff has company.

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