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Stuck On Stupid

Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 12:26:20 AM

The Stuck on the Palmetto controversy keeps churning over at SotP. Now that Rick's quit, his sidekick Alex is fighting for him:

We embark sometimes in heated arguments which we should be able to keep them confined to opinions and ideas. You don't like somehing you read, attack the idea, not the person. Some people, unfortunately or by training, can't keep themselves from taking that extra step. That's what Bob Norman chose to do. The question is not innocent of course, because he knows. The threat is clear: "I know what is important to you, and I have the power to publish it if you piss me off". It's not a matter of "rights", a word that gets thrown around too often without knowing the meaning. It's a matter of decency and trust. He is privy to information he knows is destructive and he's using it as a weapon to shut somebody he doesn't like.

Then he goes on about how now I'm backtracking and, after his high-minded words decrying personal attacks, calls me a malicious dick (or d*ck, as he more politely puts it). Then he goes on a paranoid tack about how journalists (like me) are out to get bloggers (like Rick).

All this is getting just a little strange. For somebody that doesn't want to lose his anonymity, Rick and his blog sure are drawing a lot of attention to the issue. Not at all what I had in mind, but now they've put me in a position where I need to expound a bit more on the thing (as self-defense, if nothing else).

A little background: Rick is/was probably the most active blogger in South Florida. He mines the newspapers and the larger Internet for his material and posts several times a day, illustrating just about every post. I'd say he averages three to four hours a day on it. Just an educated guess.

Everyone by now has gathered what line of work he's in, thanks to his bullhorning of an obscure jab that was tucked away in a comment on the Pulp. Now it's time for you to put two and two together. I've devoted half my career so far to exposing waste, corruption etc in government. So I'm not going to lie and say my eyebrows didn't raise a notch when I found out what Rick does for a living. It crossed my mind that all that Palmetto time might be better spent doing his actual job, which is not an unimportant one at all.

I barely gave it a second thought, though; this wasn't a job for Pulpman. His blog was decent and who knew how he juggled it with his job to make it happen. But when he started accusing me of bashing police and made himself out to be some avenging angel of law enforcement, it did irk me. It's the one issue Rick -- solid, middle American, mind-numbingly normal Rick -- gets totally irrational about. I knew he why he was biased, but nobody else did. Basically I thought he should admit what line of work he was in, in general terms. We tussled about it a little in the past and I nudged the guy over the weekend. I thought it was harmless.

But he overreacted and spilled it all over his blog and made a huge issue out of it. Why? Ask him, because it doesn't matter what I think. People are making this about me, but it's all about Rick. He's the one who brought attention to the issue. It's his fucking thing, not mine.

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17 Comments:

Wilder says:

Wow .... as one who is watching this from a far, I feel bad for Rick, cause he's bringing about on himself the very thing he's worried about ... self-fullfilling.

Rick would have been better served by contacting you by email and letting your comment blow by. That's water under the bridge now. Bob you are what you are, an investigative reporter. Rick wasn't totally off base when he felt threatened.

I like The Daily Pulp, and SOTP, you and Rick along with Tere are my favorite South Florida area non-sports bloggers. Craig Dolch who I'm friends with, does golf blogging for the Post.

As to the most active South Florida blogger, I think I give Rick and Alex a run for their money down here. When healthy, I pour out 3-10 posts a day and have done some original reporting. Not just golf, like I did at last year's ADT championship, but reporting the Wilma food stamp screwups where benefits were weeks delayed in being mailed out. Something the Post never mentioned till months after the fact. I was also ahead of the Sentinel and some of the television stations in the area on that story.

Bill

dreaming says:

i have absolutely nothing invested in this little tropical storm. i seldom click on sotp, and dont even visit here most days.

but im struck by one little irony, i.e, that rick feels you are motivated by some press blitzkrieg to 'get' bloggers.


he is so obviously not from a press background that he clearly doesnt understand how he has made himself the news by his actions and words, not you. he has shot himself in the foot, but wants to believe his own paranoia that it's all someone else's fault, someone in the 'media.'

tsk tsk.

if hes a cop, which i guess he is, then hes obviously got a desk job. but so what? cops used to be ridiculed for eating donuts all day. now, some blog, evidently. show me someone who doesnt kill time at work.

seve says:

Wait. I'm not following this. Alex calls you a name so you decide to basically reveal additional info about Rick which you said before that you really didn't want to do?

What's up with that?

I would be real curious to know if Rick ever cautioned you on revealing this info. But you did it just now anyway?

I don't get it.

casin says:

Pulp,

The only reason I read your stuff is because you are a decent investigative reporter. Many of the work you did and continue to do is important. I also come here to GET INFORMED!! I am interested in what goes on in this county and you never fail to point me to areas where I get information I wouldn't see otherwise. For all I know Rick might be some kind of bureaucrat, somewhere in the wasteland of a government "department" and I couldn't care less if he was paid to blog!!

However, I care to find out how the revenues collected for the purpose of serving the common good are allocated and spent..... Being a shill for the law enforcement propaganda machine might be a good way to spend this money, but is something I would be interested on knowing more about.

I look forward to your work continuing to bring all this waste and corruption to light.

Pulp says:

you're right, seve, you don't get it

This is my take on Rick’s departure from Stuck on the Palmetto:

Ricky, We Hardly Knew Ye

http://reviewofcuban-americanblogs.blogspot.com


Gee Thanks says:

for closing down SOTP...way to go, dude! [sarcasm]

Only at Rick's request is Bob not getting my Knucklehead of the Day award. I noted the possible irony last week in his actions possibly helping to bring down the blog called best local blog by The New Times.

Bill

Anonymous says:

I guess it was just too much for you that someone else had a more successful blog, filled with more interesting posts, and, on the whole, was more entertaining. Guess you just had to do your best to shut them down. Good job Norman!

I think there was something else going on and I think he just imploded and took it out on you, Bob. Maybe someone at his office or his "real life" found out about the blog, maybe he just finally realized he couldn't keep looking over his shoulder and maybe your one little comment just was the last straw that put him over the edge.

Shame the way he left. Sort of like just pulling the trigger on himself.

Many crocodile tears have been shed over the death of Stuck on the Palmetto by South Florida blogs that depended on its blogroll for their survival. I say "crocodile tears" because all these blogs, small and smaller, while benefitting from SotP's seal of approval also despised it cordially as all industry leaders are despised. What was it exactly that SotP was a purveyor of and how could one or more of these vestigial blogs replace it? That is the question which many pretenders to Rick's mantle have been asking themselves. If you ask me, I think there is an heir apparent to SotP already. Which is?

Continue at:

http://reviewofcuban-americanblogs.blogspot.com

Me says:

Manuel -- those blogs may have needed the blogroll, but you post on every damn blog in town and then put a link back to your site. Talk about pathetically trying to get readers.

SWLiP says:

I thought that this was really rich coming from SoTP:

You don't like somehing you read, attack the idea, not the person.

Rick was always the No. 1 offender among South Fla. bloggers for engaging in ad hominem attacks on anyone who disagreed with him. I have trouble feeling sorry for him, now that someone has made him feel accountable.

Bob Norman is a Twerp says:

Bob Norman - you are a jealous little twerp. You were jealous that SoTP was a much better blog - so you decide to threaten to out him?? YOU ARE PATHETIC!!

Bullseye says:

All is not lost. Just go and visit the Wayback Machine for past archives of LotP and don't forget to visit American Drumslinger, another fine, although nsfw south Florida blog.

Me:

What a meek little moniker befitting a meek little man. The only two blogs besides my own were I have commented on the demise of Stuck on the Palmetto are the Daily Pulp and Critical Miami. I hope I have been able to keep the interest in this story alive as well as illuminate the hidden places in it. I'm sure you have been flitting like a butterfly wherever I go.

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