GWAR's Oderus Urungus: "Rob Zombie Is a Tired, G-Rated, Mishmash of Other People's Styles"
How did you end up in that movie?
GWAR just happened to be playing in the same state that Empire Records was being filmed in. It was so low budget. They couldn't have flown us in. We just happened to be playing a show in the neighborhood and they wrote us into the script.
These days, GWAR isn't regarded as "shocking" as you used to be. You were featured on Jerry Springer as a "shock rock" band. But it doesn't seem like you would fit into that category anymore.
[Springer] had it all wrong. Did you see that kid they brought out that they said was a "GWAR fan" with the black lipstick? That kid would have gotten his ass kicked at a GWAR show.
A lot of bands have tried to do what GWAR does. But no band has ever taken it as far as GWAR has. No one has ever out-sicked us. You think these Walmart behemoths of the music industry like Marilyn Manson or Rob Zombie are really scary people? That they have any kind of revolutionary agenda? All they care about is making money, and hanging out with their director buddies as they throw gala award ceremonies to circle jerk each other into a frenzy. GWAR is where GWAR should be: In the drawer marked filth.
There would not be Slipknot without GWAR. I have a direct quote from Rob Zombie about Gwar when he was figuring out what he wanted to do with his career. They asked him, "Hey what do you think of them?" and he said, "The first time I saw GWAR, I thought 'I want to be that, but I want to make money.'" That to me says a lot about Rob Zombie as an artist. It says that he isn't one.
I give Manson a little more credit. He has a strand of pure obnoxiousness in him. I heard a story, some girl tried to get his signature and he hocked a huge bloody loogie. "There's my signature."
Rob Zombie is a tired, G-Rated, mishmash of other people's styles. When I see Slipknot I see lots of pentagrams and cow skulls. Really familiar imagery. What I do like about Sliptknot is there music. Their drummer is fucking amazing. But when I get to Marilyn Manson, he's a little harder to peg. A little Alice Cooper, a little Bowie, a little Johnny Rotten.
GWAR has done similar things. We've borrowed liberally from other shit. But no one has gone further than GWAR has gone.
Does GWAR have a revolutionary agenda?
We believe our entire fucking system is one of decrepit foulness and the only way to really do anything about it is by wiping out the entire mistake and starting all over again.
To what extent does that wipe out reach?
First, all of the humans that I hate. Then, all of the humans that helped me kill them. Then the planet itself. And then if we're lucky all of existence.
So that would include GWAR?