Collective Soul - Revolution - May 11

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Collective Soul
Revolution, Fort Lauderdale
Friday, May 11

Better Than:
Listening to Dosage from start to finish at home.

Over the last few months the 90s have been brought back to life in Fort Lauderdale. Such bands as Soul Asylum, Candlebox, and Filter have gone back on the road sending us on a bit of a time traveling adventure. On Friday night, Collective Soul joined the nostalgic ranks as they kicked off its Dosage tour at Revolution. (View slideshow here.)

To be quite honest, in the 90s I was listening to bands like NIN, Siouxsie and the Banshees, and the Smiths. So, you can understand that a band like Collective Soul wasn't in rotation on my stereo. However, I tried to keep an open mind and let my preconceived notions fall to the wayside on Friday night.

At around 7:30p.m., a long line was formed outside of Revolution. Folks were gathered around the large tour bus parked on the street. At some point -- unbeknownst to me -- singer Ed Roland was standing next to me while I was in conversation with someone.
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Photo by Sayre Berman


Doors were at 7, and the band was meant to take stage at 8. The anxious tension in the room grew. At around 8:20, the band decides to come onstage -- but not to play. Ed Roland greeted the crowd, introduced the musicians, and let us know how the show was going to pan out. It'd be an evening of playing the entire Dosage album, followed by a few other songs and hits. Another 15 minutes went by before the band finally took the stage to perform. Making a crowd wait for over an hour after the door time is absolutely ridiculous and pompous. There was no opening act. That excessive amount of waiting time is uncalled for and disrespectful to the fans. 

Although I'm not too familiar with the discography of Collective Soul -- aside from the obvious radio hits -- I did know the opening song. Despite the embarrassing reason, it put a smile on my face as I slightly sang along thinking of Edward Cullen.

"He looks like Andy Dick." said the fellow next to me.

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Photo by Sayre Berman


Roland wore a tight fitted blazer, and some over-sized black rimmed glasses. In front of him stood a conductor's stand and two microphones. I'm still not quite sure what was on that conductor stand, but it had me wondering if he forgot the lyrics to some of the songs. It has been over a decade since the album release, so I wouldn't be surprised. I witnessed Dave Pirner do the same thing at the Soul Asylum show. Nothing wrong with that. However, the two microphone thing gave me a laugh. Throughout the night he'd lean on one while singing down low into the other. He was a man of very few words during the set. At times he'd applaud after songs and occasionally take a bow. Made me think this guy loves himself a bit too much.

Despite Roland's seemingly arrogant stage presence, the band treated the fans to a proper evening with Collective Soul. Going in, some may have been assumed the show would only consist of the album Dosage. But, the set list moved through the band's extensive eight album discography. They even played the popular radio hits that some bands tend to stray away from doing live nowadays. (ie: Counting Crows and "Mr. Jones") 

Earlier in the day, someone on the Revolution Facebook page left a comment that said "the band sucked in the 90s, they suck now. It won't sell out." Well, contrary to this person's belief, they couldn't have been more wrong about the attendance. I've been to plenty of shows at Revolution -- good and bad -- and the venue was packed to the gills with fans. And not just with people who liked the band once upon a time or knew a few songs. The crowd sang along lyric for lyric alongside Roland, cheered in between tracks, and danced with one another.  Even during the slower songs, the excitement never waned. A chatty fellow next to me expressed his enjoyment by yelling "Collective fucking Soul" multiple times.

This level of fan appreciation and attendance had me wondering: am I close minded in my music taste or do a lot of people like really bad radio rock? Perhaps I missed out on a key time in music during the 90s and should have given more of a listen to bands like Collective Soul. For a band to pack Revolution, that's got to say something about its music. Right?


Critic's Notebook

Personal Bias:
"Tremble for my Beloved" is on the Twilight soundtrack.

The Crowd: late 30-50somethings, cranky teenagers with their parents, diehard Collective Soul fans

Random Detail:
10 different guys asked me where the bathroom is. I had a different answer each time. 

Random Detail #2: People like to makeout to Collective Soul.

OH: "Honey, look at all the brassieres!"

Set List
Tremble for my Beloved
Heavy
No More No Less
Needs
Slow Run
Generate
Compliment
She Said
Not the One
Crown

Welcome All Again
Better Now
Forgiveness
Gel
Hollywood
Why, Pt. 2
Precious Declaration
The World I Know

December
Shine


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Revolution Live

100 SW 3rd Ave., Fort Lauderdale, FL

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10 comments
Guest
Guest

Betsey, it's fine to go to a show as a blank slate...no preconceived notions and all, but before you start typing up the review...before posting anything...well that might be a good time to do some research. You'll have more credibility that way. CS has had a steady succession of successful albums since they first got together. Ed may have an ego issue, but I really don't want to read a review about his swelled head, I just want to read about the show, the music, the songs, the sound. If you don't like something, don't sneer at it (as many of you tend to do because, well, that's the cool thing to do), just write about it, lose the sneer.

Chris R
Chris R

Betsey, you have a lot of nerve. It seems like every show you go to, like most New Times writers, you trash it, and the people there.

1. Bands such as Candlebox, Live, Filter, and Soul Asylum, as well as many other acts who came to popularity in the 90's, never really stopped releasing new albums or touring. Many of them visit South Florida if not once a year, twice. In fact Candlebox was here three times last year - one of those shows WAS SPONSORED BY NEW TIMES.

2. You know what is uncalled for and disrespectful to fans, you, and many other New Times who writers who also seem to think that people over 25 should not attend concerts and typecast the band and their style of music by the age of audience attendance. Above on 'Related Content' I see your Pretty Reckless review highlighted - this is another example of your stupidity in this rational.

3. The poster for the show says 'An Evening with Collective Soul,' meaning that one artist. Why were you so appalled that there was no opening act? I was glad that there wasn't.

4. They were two separate types of vocal microphones, one gave an AM Radio affect, the other was a standard vocal mic.

5. He graciously bowed as if to say thank you to the crowd back. Have you no courtesy?

6. The band has consistently put out albums since 1999's Dosage, as well as a Live DVD with a symphony. Maybe you should do some research, especially on a band that you admittedly know nothing about. Collective Soul is not the first band to revisit a past album to perform in it's entirety. This is actually sort of a new trend that has been going on the past few years. It would have been nice if you wrote why the band decided to go tour for Dosage?

7. Maybe you shouldn't be so close minded, not everyone in South Florida is into obscure indie rock. This is why popular radio rock bands that focus on writing great songs are able to have sell-out concerts consistently. Examples of such groups include Creed, Nickelback, Bush, Alice In Chains, and other artists of their ilk that you deem 'for old people.' If I'm not mistaken, aren't you closing in on 30 as well?

Betsey, please, the next time you review something you should hide your ignorance by doing your research on the artist beforehand. If you are going to review a show, review the show and the band, not the audience and their age.

Betsey J. Denberg
Betsey J. Denberg

 Thanks for the comment, Sayre. I'll keep that in mind for the next review.

Betsey J. Denberg
Betsey J. Denberg

 PS. - Just replied to your commentary of the Pretty Reckless piece. Nothing nice to say about that review, either eh? ;)

Betsey J. Denberg
Betsey J. Denberg

Hey Chris.Thanks for the reading and the detailed comment.

1. I wasn't saying anything negative about 90s bands touring. I think it's great. Soul Asylum was one of my favorite bands back then, so I was more than excited to see them at the Culture Room. Candlebox released its third album in 1998, didn't do anything until 2008. A decade is a long time, and I think it's warranted to label them primarily as a 90s band. They have toured a lot recently because of its newest album in 2012. They actually did a DJ set in Miami as of recent too.

2. Again, I said nothing negative about the crowd's age. I was simply stating a fact. Actually, I meant to put in something about how refreshing it was to be at a show with a crowd around my age and older. People were a lot friendlier and respectful to people standing around them. I don't think I said one bad thing about age in the review. By all means, correct me if I'm wrong though.

3. I didn't say I was appalled that there was no opening act. Perhaps you read that wrong. I was appalled at the amount of time they kept the crowd waiting. You were not? An hour and a half without an opening band -- meaning there is no setup or breakdown time -- seems a bit ridiculous. Does it not? Hell, I'm glad there was no opening band.

4. Thank you for pointing out the double microphone reasoning. Like I said, I thought it was just for show. The sound in Revolution didn't do much for the band on Friday night. That's not only the opinion of me either. Several people said that around me. So, I couldn't tell there was a different sound coming out of each mic. Thanks for that info though. It's informative.

5. He didn't come off like he was bowing to the crowd. Even some folks around me told me he was quite a pompous ass and that it shows.

6. I didn't say Dosage was its last album. I mentioned they have an extensive discography of 8 studio albums. We actually did a preview of the show on why they're touring on Dosage.

7. Did I not say at the end that perhaps my music taste is close minded? I asked that question for a reason. And hey, I LOVE Bush and Alice in Chains. And I never said that music was for old people at all. I actually have a difficult time listening to newer "indie" bands like Phoenix, MGMT, or all the dubstep stuff. I tend to favor more towards older stuff. (Actually, you might enjoy my Dave Matthews Band post coming up. So look for it.)

8. Honestly, a lot of times I like to go see bands without too much research. I enjoyed myself at Collective Soul, as I said. My apologies if you'd like to hear more about the technical side of things, that's not necessarily what I'll write about. I'm not really seeing where I said anything bad about the audience and its age in this write up. As far as the Pretty Reckless show, I made a joke about an over 30+ male gawking creepily at an 18year old teenager. Sorry if you took that took seriously.

Again, thanks for reading and I appreciate your commentary on my review.

GUEST
GUEST

Ok Betsey. Also, and I've given this some thought because I too take the blank slate approach sometimes...when you get to a show, ask the fans why they are fans. You'll get a feel for what the band is known for and you'll know what to expect, what to look and listen for. Several hours or days of research won't give you (or anybody) that same historical perspective that the diehard fans have, but by talking to them you'll have a pretty good idea of what to look for and whether or not the show was successful. Lee Zimmerman does a beautiful job with his reviews, have a look at those and I think you'll be inspired. I look forward to your next review:)

Shred360
Shred360

 1. Actually Candlebox did release a Greatest Hits disc in 2005, a new album in 2006, as well as a live DVD filmed in Seattle. The downtime the band had was due to vocalist Kevin Martin doing a side band called the HiWatts who released a disc and toured quite diligently on an international level. Also, the set you're referring to in Miami was a short stripped down acoustic run of dates, not a DJ set.

2. You may not have said a bad thing about age this time, but you don't put it in the right context when you mention age. This wasn't a Streisand show where something such as age is something that would be observed in a comment such as, "I felt out of place being that the general crowd attendance was around my grandparents age."

3. It's opening night of the tour, and you can't expect that the show is going to go off without a hitch. I find it a rarity that I go to a show that does go on on time. You want to talk shows not going on on time, go to pretty much any local show where the venues have the bands go on later because the place isn't full enough yet.

4. It wasn't Revolution that was an issue, the soundman looked to be having issues that were seemingly getting better as the night progressed, especially during the second set. Once again, opening night you can't expect things to be perfect. I'm sure if our date was mid-tour we would have had a tightly oiled machine.

5. The folks mentioning Roland's demeanor most likely know his history. The guy is kind of a hit-writer, he's going to have a big head.

6. If you did a preview, which sadly was with the not so talkative Dean, than maybe you should have mentioned in here for those who did not see the preview why the band was touring this disc. The review came off sounding as if the band is still touring behind this disc, regardless of you mentioning that they have 8 releases.

8. Stay away from the age thing. I'm sure that I'm not the only male who just loves music (of all types). New Times writers have a tendency to single out things such as age and gender and they need to stop. It's just not nice period. That would be like saying the large attendance of females at a Bush show are mainly there because of Gavin Rossdale's looks. It's just not right.

Guest
Guest

I absolutely agree with you. That venue is an awful place, the sound was terrible, far too much bass and cymbals in the mix if you ask me. And yes, in spite of the two mics, the vocals were indecipherable. Folks were yelling at the soundman throughout the first half of the set (I was standing right next to him). I left at intermission, it was that bad and that disappointing. Collective Soul is one of my favorite bands. I too hope they return soon, but to a better venue, Fillmore or even BCPA or Parker Playhouse might be nice...or back to Mizner perhaps. 

Airbehr7
Airbehr7

I am a big fan of Collective Soul but was very disappointed in Fridays show...I should have stayed home and listened to them at home as I enjoy doing. You could barely hear the vocals between the poor sound engineer and the drunk obnoxious crowd...I hope they come around again soon and perform at the Fillmore or elsewhere....

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