Uno, Dos, Tres: Top 5 Ways Green Day Has Sold Out the Punx

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Has Green Day lost all of its punk points?
In the wake of Nirvana, the major-label punk-rock gold rush of the '90s ripped open the underground like a vulture picking at a fresh carcass. And with their acclaimed, multiplatinum breakthrough, Dookie, Green Day were the ultimate symbol of moving from the secret world of house shows and Food Not Bombs to the egregious swank of Green Room culture.

Ever since, it seems like Billie Joe Armstrong, Tre Cool, and Mike Dirnt have been hellbent on committing every nonpunk act in the book. They've even announced a new concept album trilogy -- titled, respectively, Uno, Dos, and Tres. Didn't these guys learn anything from the Clash's Sandinista? Punks hate concept albums and trilogies.

This kind of baiting is nothing new. Check out or top five indulgences after the jump.

Green Day Sold Out When They Toured With Blink-182
The only thing more ridiculously desperate than Green Day touring with Blink-182 on 2002's "Pop Disaster Tour" is when Bad Religion opened for Blink in 2000. Though, we do imagine it was fun to watch Green Day's chief demographic (hairy-palmed '90s oafs and the only lusty tween boys not into Skrillex) interact with Blink-182's shrieking jailbait scene.



Green Day Sold Out When They Wrote a Broadway Musical
We hate American Idiot if only because it gave jabronies a reason to use the phrase "punk-rock musical." Additionally, "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" is some sappy bullshit. Hey, Bill, save it for your Hot Topic-y picture Tumblr.



Green Day Sold Out When They Filmed a Commercial for Rhapsody
We will admit that the concept for this commercial -- 51 Green Day lyrics turned into literal characters, scenes, or props -- is kinda cool. But what could be less punk rock than a commercial for a subscription to an internet downloading service. Oi oi oi?



Green Day Sold Out When Billie Joe Armstrong Started Wearing Mascara
We do not object to men wearing mascara. We object to Billie Joe Armstrong wearing mascara.



Green Day Sold Out When They Played the Super Bowl Halftime Show
This hasn't actually happened yet. But it's such a nasty inevitability that we might as well be the first to list it on the internet.


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1000yaknows
1000yaknows

Umm.. No offence, but I don't think they give a fuck what "punks" think of trilogies. They write for themselves, not some silly labels.

yosemitySam77
yosemitySam77

lol. Yeah man. Punk is all about nonconformity and doing what  you want. but you can only hang out with certain people, you have to look a certain way, and if the things that you like doing aren't "cool" enough for us, then you aren't actually punk...

ilenestrong
ilenestrong

GREEN DAY'S TRILOGY IS A REAL PUNK!!! I've listened UNO DOS and TRE so I'm not disappointed, cause I LOVE THESE ALBUMS! Their new songs are the best!!! THANK YOU, GREEN DAY!

ilenestrong
ilenestrong

Green Day's Trilogy is a real punk rock! I've listened UNO DOS and TRE so I'm not disappointed, cause I LOVE THESE ALBUMS! Their new songs are the best!!! THANK YOU, GREEN DAY!

ianzulick
ianzulick

Their music will always mean something to me, but after they released a rockband game all their own, that was the last straw.  But I've got to say, some of your reasons like "wearing mascara" are downright asinine.  Who gives a shit?  Green day is a punk band, but you can't really liken it to the clash or the ramones or social distortion because of what it's become.  As much in common as they have with the aforementioned bands, they are from a different era, and they aren't going to be carbon copies of their influences.  At the same time though, there's no point being in a punk rock band if you want to be even marginally famous.  As stated, the clash and the ramones and the germs, and x, etc. were pioneers, but achieving any type of mainstream success is the antithesis of punk rock, isn't it?  They made money and have sold out to an extent, but I will always value the band for how their music affected me.  

evelynn.eats.rainbow
evelynn.eats.rainbow

you dumbass cunt. quit being a motherfucking hater. they're probably making more money && getting more ass than you would ever dream of. they are obviously more well known & don't give a fuck about any negative shit you have to say about them. so shut the fuck up & go write about how you're never going to get laid because your a pussyass hater. pendejo

Cruiseshipfan
Cruiseshipfan

Punk is not caring what other people think and that is exactly what Green Day are doing so I think its the old fans that have sold out.

jayden
jayden

first of all if you were going to call them sellouts your about roughly 18 years to late! And another thing Green Day is one of the few punk/pop-punk bands that actually have musical talent and they can do alot fukin better than you could if you were asked to make an music so why dont you go shove your head up ur ass and die cause frankly your just a waste of our oxygen!!!

Hernan Jimenez
Hernan Jimenez

Hey umm person that wrote the article,,. ahh did you know that.... umm people grow up and change? I find it funny that people say that they want another Dookie album... but they aren't 15 year old kids smoking week and masturbating. Now they are older men with families and different points of views so their music will change to fit what they like. If you don't like their music by all means click on another band and enjoy it. It is a free world do what you want to do but at least get your facts strait and different point of views. Plus the amount of money they are making i'm pretty sure they would laugh the whole they while reading this article. I was laughing because it shows how much you don't know about anything. Here is a hint, Read, research, research more, understand that people and then right and article of your findings KK!?

Hawke
Hawke

By the way, Billie played football in high school and has been seen in Oakland Raiders clothes, so he seems to be a football fan. If they ever play the Super Bowl, it'll be because they want to not because of the money they'll be offered.

Don Fox
Don Fox

Wow, you know, I've gotten pretty used to these "punk purists" calling Green Day sellouts, but I still can't believe how ridiculous it all is. Every single reason you've given has absolutely no validity. The only way a band is really selling out is when they start doing things just for the money. Green Day has always been about the music. The grew up in the East Bay punk scene at places like Gilman Street, so at their core they are punks. But they don't try to conform to what butthurt punk purists try to label as punk and not punk, they play their own music because they love music. I won't like every single song they've put out is the epitome of punk rock, because that would be bullshit, but they are an ambitious and passionate rock band that plays the music they love, takes the risks they want to take, and don't give a fuck what anyone says about it. Countless times I've heard them say they make music for themselves, and if other people like it, that's great. I think that's what a musician should be like. Many bands are sellouts, a large percentage of pop groups are conceived as sellouts (so really they haven't sold out, they are just greedy bastards, but whatever) but Green Day has NOT sold out. F.O.D. sir, F.O.D.

carecadinho@hotmail.co.uk
carecadinho@hotmail.co.uk

Commercial? Really? Johnny rotten (john lydon) sex pistols lead singer probs the best punk rocker of all time is doing butter for crumpet adverts so this article is retarded sold out sold out, its all bollocks at the end of the day they are making music still and its not bad if anyone is a sell out its the bands who split up because they must give up

Angus Haushinka Pragnell
Angus Haushinka Pragnell

Oh I get it!  To be punk, you must conform to the conventions set by a bunch of people who feel a need to categorise a genre.  That's the opposite of punk and in all honesty Gilman street screwed up by rejecting bands like Green Day and Pennywise.  Just because they moved on must mean they "sold out".  Those people who call out that every band is a "sellout" is not punk.

Jmiles2504
Jmiles2504

Highly doubt this guy has even listened to anything before "Dookie" anyway. We shouldn't be wasting our breathe on what he thinks. South Florida music scene... Give me a break! This is the same area that basically gave us Creed, Limp Bizkit and Puddle of Mudd. Take this were it comes from. 

GreenDay1039
GreenDay1039

ha 'mascara' you twat its eyeliner and so what they are a band and they are doing what ever the fuck they want do you really think they care about haters like you? obviously not! F.O.D and Platypus was written for people like YOU!

thatguy
thatguy

Not sure if trolling or the writer is stupid.

Anon
Anon

Green Day does what they want, when they want, and they don't apologize for it. They created a successful rock opera, they've toured around the world multiple times. They've been accused of selling out since the '90's and have continued to not care. Do you really want a bunch of 40 year olds singing about masturbation like they did for Dookie? From your writing history, I judge your musical taste harshly. Steven Tyler? You know nothing of Punk. And by the way, it's called, "Uno, Dos, Tre!" with a pun based on their drummer's nickname, Tre Cool. Do some research, 'writer.'

M1KEY
M1KEY

What interests me the most about this article is the comment section.  If I were to go to another site and read a positive article about Green Day or their upcoming album trilogy, the comment section would be filled with people shitting on Green Day and calling them sellouts and bitching about how "their new stuff sucks", blah blah blah.  This article, claiming those negative ideas, is flooded with the opposite.  Just goes to show, all people really wanna do online is bitch and fucking complain.  People only seem to take the time to comment if they can disagree and talk shit about whatever was written.  Is no one happy anymore?  Just enjoy the things you enjoy and don't bother with the things you don't care for!

Reid McLendon
Reid McLendon

Why. WHY do people never understand what "selling out" actually means. If you're making money off of something you don't believe in, or something that isn't yours, then you're selling out. Green Day hasn't done this ONCE. They just did what they wanted to and happened to be very successful in the process. More importantly though, even if they WERE sellouts, they still don't care if they're "punk" enough or not. It seems that a lot of people accuse them of not being punk as if Green Day's goal was to be a punk rock band. Their real goal is just to be a really good band, and not really define themselves to a genre.  However, starting up in the punk community, they still have a punk background and influences that will stick with them forever. *end rant and pointless attempt at resolving an unsolvable never-ending conflict*

Rng923736
Rng923736

Green Day is the greatest band ever. They can do wrong. All these illiterate fools who obviously have no taste for music spread their false nonsense through the internet.. Just know. Their wrong. Green Day is always right. :)

NoFx5317
NoFx5317

Punk is not a fucking image, it's being yourself and doing what you want to do. I would say doing the Broadway musical, making that commercial, playing with blink-182, and hopefully playing the Superbowl halftime show someday, is the most "punk" thing to do cause it pisses stupid people like you off. It takes balls to do what Green Day has done.

sebastian
sebastian

"We do not object to men wearing mascara. We object to Billie Joe Armstrong wearing mascara."

Truer words coudn't be written. Let's face it, they're no Social Distortion...

Rmi097
Rmi097

Haha whoever wrote this makes me laugh. You are highly unitelligent. First of all  "selling out" is the compromising of integrity, morality, or principles in exchange for money or "success"  It is commonly associated with attempts to tailor material to a mainstream audience. 1. Playing with another VERY SUCCESSFUL band makes you a sellout??? Green Day was at the top of their game in 2002 and still is.2. Green Day isnt even in the musical. They Sing Green Day's song. Its more of a tribute  anyway.3. I didnt know marketing your music is selling out. You fool. They are simply marketing. NOT SELLING OUT.4. You dont listen to his eyeliner. You listen to the music you fool.5. Oh my god. You are an idiot......i wont even go into an explanation for number 5. You all think its fun to bash Green Day. Why because all your friends do it. You like to think as yourself as a so called punk. A so called Punk would form their own opinion. Unlike you. In addition to that, punk is doing what you want and doing what you believe in. Which is what green day has done....case closed...shutup.

Burroughs0708
Burroughs0708

So pretty much every band that doesn't cater specifically to your tastes is a sell out huh? You must think quite a bit of yourself. Well I'm sure that all this time Green Day has been waiting for someone to write this article and show them the error of their ways and upon reading it they will be quick to correct themselves because god knows that the way they've been doing things so far hasn't been very successful. Yeah, you don't sound like a pompous douche

IDK
IDK

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. One of the things that makes Green Day so good is that they aren't posers (like you clearly are). they do what they want to, instead of following some "punk" rules. And when you think about it, even having rules or guidelines to follow to be a punk is hypocritical, as the definition of a punk is someone who doesn't care about anything, so shouldn't that mean they don't care about maintaining a punk image? Bottom line, this article is stupid and senseless.

green day forever
green day forever

Who is a punk? someone who follows the lead of others?or someone who breaks all rules simply because they like it that way?green day have done exactly the same.If that is not punk, then what is?

who ever wrote this article is a jerk

Jake
Jake

Apparently being successful is selling out. I guess you'll just go to college, get a degree then sit in the basement for the rest of your life saying: "If I get money for my talents, that means I'm a sell-out." Stupid kid

Guest
Guest

Green Day didn't actually write the musical they just allowed it to be written and even performed in it because that's what fans wanted. And Billie Joe has been wearing guyliner forever, he pulls it off because he is awesome. And I think we all know that GD has always had a more punk-pop sound anyway, that's why they get played on mainstream radio, not that they're mainstream.

Cocksucker
Cocksucker

You're fucking stupid man. Punk isto do what ever the fuck you want and not have a problem with it. Who are you to judge a punk ? Actually who are you to say what's punk and whats not punk. Billie wears eyeline not macara. And bro, know what. Green Day went against the "rules" of punk rock. That makes them even more punk. Besides, punks want to spread a message. If they only did it underground not many people would hear that message. green day on the other hand, Is sprrading that message. Besides they don't play for yours or my interest. They do it for themselves, because they love music. Stop judging them..that's the most unpunk thing I could think of.

c_b
c_b

This article is from someone who is clearly can't grasp that just cos a band gets famous doesn't mean they've sold out. It means they're good. So people like them. That's how it works They are a great band. Get over it.

And do your research properly next time. New albums are called Uno, Dos, Tré (you know, after the drummer of the aforementioned band you feel you have so much authority on?)

Benny
Benny

fuck you, you're redicilous! theres no real valid reason as to why your slating the band and for reasons that cannot be considered "sell outs" get a life and move out of your moms house!!!!

Brianna Lund
Brianna Lund

I despise country artists like Taylor Swift and Carrie Underwood but I don't deliberately go out and search for evidence and videos against them proving my case. These people have nothing to love in life if they've got to write articles about what they hate. I feel sorry for you.

Brianna Lund
Brianna Lund

If you don't like them, don't listen to them. Don't go to their musical. Don't watch their videos. It's as simple as that. By whining about your hatred for them, you're just making yourself look like a big baby, if you ask me. And who wants to fit into a "punk" label or any label for that matter? Doesn't that make you trendy by trying to be like other "punks"? Green Day, do what ever the fuck you damn well please. Keep pissing people off. It makes me smile :)

Not a Green Day fan
Not a Green Day fan

I could refute reasonably every of your lousy statements. However, instead of that, I'm going to say this: Fuck you.

Atnguyen94
Atnguyen94

Guess what? No one cares. You're living in the past, get in the now

Nimrod00666
Nimrod00666

You may have confused "selling out" with "success"

espionageact
espionageact

The person who wrote this article clearly has no concept of what makes a true punk.  Who gives a shit about what the Punk Police say. They make their own rules, and if you can't live with that, it's okay.

WhatsernameWantsBillieJoe95
WhatsernameWantsBillieJoe95

Here's my 2 cents-

I'm not saying this stuff as a Green Day fan, I'm saying this as an overall music fanatic.1) Who cares if they toured with Blink? Honestly! Green Day and Blink are two extremely respected bands that emerged and exploded at the same time. Most people who like one generally like the other, meaning that it's a great opportunity for fans to see both and the bands to learn from each other.

2) As pointed out by someone else, they didn't write a musical- the musical was adapted from the albums. It's something different and new that they hadn't done before. Everyone experiments with new things in the music business- and when I say everyone, that pretty much means EVERYONE. Bono wrote and directed the music for the Spiderman musical but I don't hear you calling him a sellout....

3) Really? Who cares if they made a Rhapsody commercial. If you're approached to make a commercial to promote your music, wouldn't you do it? Advertising goes on even in the underground scenes. The only difference is that one was on TV.

4) *facepalm* this has got to be the worst one of the list. When a band reinvents themselves, they pretty much reinvent everything about themselves as a band. Their looks changed and part of the change involved eyeliner.

5) Plenty of bands have played halftime shows, but again, none of them are called sell outs are they? It was something fun, new and something they're probably not going to do again for a while anyway. Part of the music business (and life in general) is doing things at least once in your life. If a band is in high demand, companies are going to approach them to play for them. If every band who was ever approached to do stuff outside of their normal then everyone would sellouts.

Beth
Beth

The fact that this guy has a job at a news outlet and I work a Vons scanning groceries makes me sick. There are so many fallacies in this article that it makes me want to cram a critical thinking textbook down this guy's throat.

Nick-s
Nick-s

This is a bullshit article, blink an green day are in the same genre of music an he doesn't wear mascara he wears eye liner, so you did your research there didn't you, they never sold out they just grew as a band, when having the same sound for every album will eventually get boring so they just adapted to make themselves more appealing

Sandra Evans
Sandra Evans

where to start, where to start...

okay, first off: people who are the type to shout 'sell-out' at someone are usually the ones obsessed with labels. and you know what? FUCK labels- if you think of yourself as mister punk, then think again, because labels are the most restrictive and conformist thing in the music industry.

now that that is out of the way: green day doesn't label their music as 'punk'.. their music is for all. and what a truth to this statement, because i've met fans who are anywhere from the anarchist vegan, to the middle-class american working for a corporation, to the college football player, to the jazz-blues musician for local clubs, to the macho leather-wearing motorcyle rider, etc etc. not only for all types of people, but people all over the world. they don't pretend to be anything they're not, and how wonderful is that, because it's 100% real. and i think that's one reasons why their music unites their fans so amazingly well.

next: everything they've done has been because THEY wanted to, not giving a fuck what others think of it. if you're going to put a label on anything, that's 'punk' at its core. ever since they first been called sell-outs in 1994 for signing onto a major label (so they'd be able to spend their whole life doing music, instead of trying to make money to drive their van around. because let's face it: you are limited when signed onto a small record that can barely keep up with your progress.) they signed onto a label despite knowing people would NOT like it. they did broadway because they wanted to branch out and do something scary and new but beautiful and artistic. billie wears eyeliner because he likes playing around with his style.. and yes, getting into his femme side. shit, he kisses guys because he wants to. the guys are kick-ass and still so down to earth (they never 'left' their roots) and they'll always do what they want as a band- not what they think OTHERS would want to see/not want to see. and if they play the superbowl, it's because they want to. part of the reason they are so famous now are because they never limited themselves in that way. they never let fear of judgement prevent them from grabbing all the opportunities they've taken.

they've accomplished an ASTONISHING amount of achievements because of their own hard work. study their past and where they came from- the shit didn't come on a silver platter. they worked their asses off for years, and still work their asses off (as the hard, dedicated, music-loving workers they are) and they've always been in it for the music. i have mad-respect for these guys, and they deserve all the praise they've gotten, because they in fact did achieve it all without 'selling out.'

thank you.

Stefan Pedersen
Stefan Pedersen

the only thing missing here is the author misspelling "Billie"..

ilenestrong
ilenestrong

@darkbunnyess Yes, UNO DOS TRE are the best albums. It's a real punk! If you don't agree, I'm too nice to tell you to f**k off and die.

jensen_nate
jensen_nate

@evelynn.eats.rainbow Wow you serious? Thats the whole ideal of being a Punk Rock musician, it simply isn't about the money it's about the love of playing music. Clearly they went too mainstream and rode that rollercoaster to sellout nation. No true punks would make a commercial for rhapsody and have it air on national TV. They had their time in the 90's guess the new millennium made them decide to go capitol.

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