Purple Lotus' Kratom-Laced Kava Drink: We Try It for Ourselves


"Kava is in the same family as black pepper; kratom comes from the same genus as coffee. They are not related!" Weber shouts.

Weber explains that kava has a "reverse tolerance": The more often you drink it, the less required to feel its effects. He speculates that kava bar owners spike their drinks with kratom to make it more addictive. "My opinion, and I'm not a doctor, is just what I've seen here at my bar," Weber explains, his tone suddenly serious. "From my understanding, kratom helps people get off of heroin, but apparently it stimulates someone the same as opium and is extremely addictive. It's disgusting. I've seen people strung out on [kratom]."

The most alarming thing, says Weber, is that people often don't realize they're ingesting kratom, and even if they do, they don't fully understand its side effects.

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Avigodor Weber, owner of the Mystic Water Kava Bar in Hollywood.

Weber vividly remembers a young couple coming in to his bar. They asked if the drink had kratom in it. Weber was horrified.

"There are people who have come in and they've never had true kava," Weber says, honestly upset.

"They drink at Purple Lotus, and it's spiked with kratom. The lawsuit [against Purple Lotus Kava Bar] is deserved. They're all dickheads for not telling [patrons] what they're giving them."

Michael Siegel believes that couple Weber was referring to was him and his wife. A year and a half ago, Siegel remembers the owner of Mystic Water Kava bar explaining the effects of kratom and kava.

"I remember stopping by the bar in Hollywood; it looked like a jungle," Siegel says. "There was this guy who, after we asked if he had kratom, yelled that he didn't and then gave us a 45-minute dissertation about the pitfalls of kratom use and how only kava bars that want to get people hooked use kratom."

"It's sad, because kava is beautiful," Weber says, shaking his head.




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rev_3_21
rev_3_21

Kratom is being bullied by  the media lately ... Has anyone noticed??

There must be  lots at stake here for the media to make up story after story loaded with lies and mis-information concerning a harmless plant thats been used safely for THOUSANDS of years.

But then they told us the same lies about marijuana 50 years ago!

Wake up people! always follow up with your own research, go to the forums where people have first-hand experience

johnahysong
johnahysong

It's amazing the ignorance of some people.  The Lotus is a family-friendly establishment.  I've had 2 of my 3 weddings there.........

jtswiatek
jtswiatek

I'm not sure what is more of a contradiction, the article or the author. This article looks as if it had been witten by my younger brother. He is in the third grade.

nativekratom
nativekratom

I have been to the Purple lotus. They told me upfront that the komodo has kratom in it. There is so much b/s out there...  shame on this reporter.

mpmartinez
mpmartinez

Bravo, {slow sarcastic clap, slow sarcastic clap}  I am not sure if you believed yourself to be writing a journalistic article or a steamy romance novel.  It was hard to tell since information and facts took a back seat to your need to use a theatrical thesaurus.  
As a "writer" you should probably know some things.  1) when you use quotes it stands for an exact phrase the person used. example.  My quote was "Kava is an herb, it's kind of like natures Xanax"  What did you write?  Not that!  No you twisted, well let's be real, you just outright lied... and the result "a xanax high." You see how I did that? I used quotes around something you actually said. 2) Well until you get #1 there is no point...This article has no facts, no medical experts, instead it has two competing businesses, a couple of felons looking to make a buck, and a girl with a note pad and a keyboard pretending to be a journalist.

Alex Smiless
Alex Smiless

Also the man you talked to in the article is not an expert. He may know where the plants come from, but I am sure he doesn't understand the therapeutic use of kratom. You get as strung out on kratom as you do on coffee. I have never had a problem with it. I have used it for many years. When I do not have kratom I feel a little tired and have a runny nose, but other than that it is no different than not having my coffee.. Any one that says otherwise was using opiates first and switched to Kratom . It is not the plant's fault

Alex Smiless
Alex Smiless

don't think Kava and Kratom should be mixed together, They are definitely two different things.But I also do not think Kratom is terrible . I don't think its fair to say that kratom is bad, especially if people use it responsibly like any other herb. Kratom is a leaf from the coffee plant, and the feeling you described is nothing like what kratom feels like on its own. I have chronic pain from arthritis and Kratom provides me with quality of life. I would hate to see kratom go away because it not only helps me but it helps thousands of people with various medical conditions I urge you to talk to people that use kratom therapeutically for homeopathic reasons to get a true idea of what kratom is like.

alexandriasmiless
alexandriasmiless

Also the man you talked to in the article is not an expert. He may know where the plants come from, but I am sure he doesn't understand the therapeutic use of kratom. You get as strung out on kratom as you do on coffee.  I have never had a problem with it. I have used it for many years. When I do not have kratom I feel a little tired and have a runny nose, but other than that it is no different than not having my coffee.. Any one that says otherwise was using opiates first and switched to Kratom . It is not the plant's fault

alexandriasmiless
alexandriasmiless

I don't think Kava and Kratom should be mixed together, They are definitely two different things.But I also do not think Kratom is terrible .  I don't think its fair to say that kratom is bad, especially if people use it responsibly like any other herb. Kratom is a leaf from the coffee plant, and the feeling  you described is nothing like what kratom feels like on its own.

I have chronic pain from arthritis and Kratom provides me with quality of life. I would hate to see kratom go away because it not only helps me but it helps thousands of people with various medical conditions

I urge you to talk to people that use kratom therapeutically for homeopathic reasons to get a true idea of what kratom is like.

meatwady18
meatwady18

This article is crap. The only reason the Siegels went to rehab is more than likely because they were addicts beforehand. Palm Beach County is full of addicts. To say that the bartenders do not inform their patrons (who I may add they make feel like family) of what they serve is COMPLETE BS. Why doesnt the owner of that crappy Kava Bar (which I have been to) in Hollywood visit here before he makes his useless comments. I have been coming to this bar for about a year (once a week if that). If anyone writing this or commenting in the article had any sort of intelligence, they would research both kratom and kava and find that it is not harmful. Why dont you sue the tobacco companies for providing people with cancer, or bars around the world for OVERSERVING (look up the article about the 20 year old who was drunk driving and killed 2 people on the sawgrass expressway) and providing people with cirrhosis of the liver. Idiots.

Chris Schaaff
Chris Schaaff

I'll just smoke some weed and dab out on some shatter instead. Fuck that bullshit

Tallshaggyhairedman
Tallshaggyhairedman

The only reason the author of this article felt heavy is because she is heavy. I don't believe for one moment that the uncomfortable feeling that her disproportional body felt was due to the kratom, it was due to her awkward dimensions. I think her denial of how her body looks is the real issue here. On the topic of discussion, kratom is a great tool when used properly. I drink it once or twice a week and never crave more, which makes it far from an opiate. This article is full of slander, and highly misleading. How could this girl express how she loved the product 2 hours after she left the establishment, and pull a devious stunt like this just to create a story?! I does not make any logical sense. My advice to the author of this lay off the Cap n Crunch and go green, your happiness may depend on it. Looking 35 when your only 22 may be a problem that cannot be cured. I hope you can do your best and live a healthy, FACTUAL life.

Sincerely,

"Tall Shaggy Haired Man"

swizmasterd
swizmasterd

Comments like the ones mystic waters owner made will be the reason both kava and kratom will get band.

Danny Morin
Danny Morin

I bet the same people drink Starbucks caffeine bomb coffee too. People are just getting dumber and dumber.

smdrpepper
smdrpepper

Sounds like it is disgusting.  Who cares if it gets you stoned if it tastes like ass?

Miniplicity
Miniplicity

@mpmartinez What did you actually say?  Did you say kava was like nature's Xanax, or not?  I don't see where the author quoted you as saying it was a "xanax high."  Just confused.  Thanks!

smdrpepper
smdrpepper

@Tallshaggyhairedman So you attack someone for how they look because they did not love what your shilling for?  Yet one more reason to avoid this establishment.

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